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Meg Rowley

9:38

I mean, yes, they could do it whenever they want with the right number

Roger

9:38

Re: Opt Outs: Have we seen anyone actually opt out and sign with a different team, instead of just using it as leverage a la Kershaw or Sabathia or ARod?

Ben Clemens

9:39

Off the top of my head, Greg Holland, amusingly.

Though that was a player option rather than an opt out.

The Hamburglar

9:39

Wait, what? That guys stole my username? The REAL Hamburglar does not have a late business dinner

Ben Clemens

9:39

Well that's quite confusing.

Would you say that he.... burgled.... your name?

I'll show myself out.

Meg Rowley

9:39

didn't expect his burgling to involve your identity

9:39

How did the Nationals acquire Hudson??

Ben Clemens

9:39

Deadline trade.

Alfredo

9:40

Greinke opted out from LAD, went to Arizona

Lunar verLander

9:41

What's the difference between an opt out and a player option?

Ben Clemens

9:41

So, I'm not a CBA expert, but as I understand it, it comes down to how salaries are counted for the cap?

Because if a contract has roller-coaster style salaries, they take an AAV to apply to the cap

With some unspecified discounting for deferred, Nats-style ones.

9:41

Ok, I did NOT ask the Hudson question!!!

Ben Clemens

9:42

My my my.

So if you have a player option, that, I assume, wouldn't get AAV'ed?

But an opt out would?

I'm Ben Clemens

9:42

Boo

Ben Clemens

9:43

Well this just gets more and more confusing.

Ben Clemens

9:43

Hold on, I didn't write that stuff about the CBA and opt-outs

Meg Rowley

9:43

lol moderators are in blue EVERYONE RELAX WITH YOUR TRICKS

James

9:43

So the consensus is that Strasburg, relative to ‘’most hyped pitching prospect ever’’, has neither disappointed nor exceeded expectations?

Ben Clemens

9:43

I think I'd give him a slightly exceeds

Meg Rowley

9:43

Don't listen to that imposter!

Not Evan

9:44

Moderators are actually in grey for us, and our own comments are in blue.

Meg Rowley

9:44

oh good grief

Spartacus

9:44

We are all Ben Clemens here

Meg Rowley

9:44

[extreme janet from the good place voice] not a ben

Guest

9:44

I always though player options were at the end of of a contract and opt-outs were in the middle?

Ben Clemens

9:45

Sure, but it's just semantics, right? Like you could have a two-year contract with a player optoin for two more years

Or a four-year contract with an opt out after two

When I modeled them up in the offseason I treated all of them as player options

Meg Rowley

9:45

How do the camera folks always know where their families are?

Ben Clemens

9:45

As in, assume nothing and the player has a choice to add a second contract to the first

But it's all semantics (plus potential cap math)

Bran Beer

9:46

Their own families? Or players' families?

Meg Rowley

9:46

Players'

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