JotCast | 2022 Top 50 Free Agents Chat - 11/8/2021

2022 Top 50 Free Agents Chat - 11/8/2021

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Ben Clemens

3:07

I don't quite buy the Kershaw rumors, but Story would make a lot of sense if you think IKF is more of a third baseman

Defensive metrics seemed to have no clue what to do with him this year, if you believe OAA he's probably better suited at third

As to Dave: lol yeah

Don't play Javy at CF

3:08

He's just such a talented defender that he COULD

mike sixel

3:08

Odds the Twins sign one of the better FA pitchers? They need three.....also, I can't believe Verlander got a QO. That's a ton of money for a guy with his recent history and age.

Ben Clemens

3:08

I think that the Twins will sign at least one pitcher in my top 25 list

PieTraynee

3:08

If (big if) the Pirates were going/able to sign one of the top 50 free agents, who do you see it being?

Ben Clemens

3:08

#50

Mets fan

3:09

Let's say the Mets wanted to sign Correa and Baez, but also want to leave open optionality in case one of Mauicio, Baty, or Vientos takes a big step forward. What do you think about a contract like this for Correa: 2/$80M with a player option for 8/$180M? Correa gets 2 years at a high AAV and can hit free agency again at 28 years old. If things go south, he can lock in $180M.

Ben Clemens

3:09

They.... they have Francisco Lindor

I think that some other team could maybe credibly make that offer, but I wouldn' take it if I were Correa

I'd just want a big bundle of money a la Bryce Harper

Screwing around with options is for when you can't guarantee yourself THREE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS

Phil

3:10

How shocked would you be if the Red Sox sign a shortstop (I mean, a good one)?

Ben Clemens

3:10

Quite shocked

I know that people want to trade Bogaerts for some reason, but I think that's just Red Sox fans, not the front office

Eyebrows

3:10

Mariners are rumored to be spending big this offseason. If you had to guess, what players do you think they end up with?

Ben Clemens

3:10

Kris Bryant and a pitcher

It would be hilarious if they ended up with Chris Taylor and he went back to being bad, though

171

3:11

Why would any team offer a 2 year contract with a PLAYER OPTION for 6 more years and $100mm more?? Will Correa completely fall apart and suck? probably not but if he does you know he's going to pick up that $100mm

Ben Clemens

3:11

There's that too

There were a lot of weird things in that hypothetical, hah

Phil

3:11

I don't think Red Sox fans want to trade Bogaerts! I think a small subset of obsessive analytics-oriented ones do.

Ben Clemens

3:11

Fair enough

As you might imagine, my view of Sox fans over-indexes to those types

Just some guy

3:11

Dwellings of Eldervale. Lost Ruins of Arnak. Hadara.

Ben Clemens

3:12

My wife and I have been meaning to try Lost Ruins for months now

Mets fan

3:12

the idea there is that the mets are getting 10 years of correa at a much lower AAV if things fall apart

Ben Clemens

3:12

But.... they don't want that/

if it fell apart, they don't want any part of Correa

But also he has nowhere to play

But also he wouldn't take it

3:13

It's a cool idea for some team to try, and I generally think that offering players opt outs is a great idea, but I don't think that exact one would happen

Player options and opt outs are so similar that I just consider them both to be the same

And to be clear, teams DO offer these types of deals

Look at Nolan Arenado's deal with the Rockies, or Machado with the Padres

Russell

3:13

Am I the only one wondering why it is analytics-oriented red sox fans that would be against Bogaerts?

Ben Clemens

3:13

It's because they're in love with that sweet sweet surplus value

3:14

Why have a good player now for one year when you could have average regulars for chepa for 5 years

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