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Vivian W
10:43
Could the crossroads represent how the different aspects of his personality and actions "aligned" to form his fate and the events that would happen?
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10:42
Could the 3 crossroads represent the prophecies and trying to hide Oedipus from it? Even though an attempt to keep Oedipus from the prophecies was made, he still ended up with the same result
22
10:42
his death does fit in with his tragic hero archetype since his life went from good to bad over the mistake he made of pushing too much for the truth.
1
10:41
Do you think Oedipus demise is based on his archetype or his fate?
Miss Miller
10:40
FYI: I just got notified that we are "running low on minutes" in this chat forum. It may cut you off before the class period is over. If that happens, just continue to listen and maybe jump in the hot seat :)
10:39
I think Ethan jumped to a different topic a little too quick. There could have been more discussion about character archetypes.
22
10:38
I agree with Makena, Oedipus isn't either good or bad, showing his tragic hero qualities.
Josie
10:38
Oedipus could be the antihero we discussed in class
20
10:37
Tiresias's message was said in public so the townspeople heard without having to be told
Makena
10:37
I agree with Vivian. I think Oedipus is both the hero of Thebes and the villain who destroyed Thebes again.
1
10:36
I disagree because Tiresias never really warned any of the people of Thebes his message was only for Oedipus this message wasn't relaid to the people.
22
10:36
I feel like they kind of skipped past talking about all the qualities of a tragic hero that Oedipus fits. They only mentioned his noble status.
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lauren
10:36
I agree with that but with that did Oedipus fill the role of the villain and the victim?
Vivian W
10:36
I feel like a lot of the characters have multiple roles and archetypes, for example Jocasta is a caregiver but also a supporter and wife.
20
10:35
I don't know if Lauryn is going to go through any more archetypes, but what other characters fit different common or uncommon archetypes?
22
10:35
I agree with Lauryn because even before she knew Oedipus was her son, she tried to protect Laius from the prophecies by gettign rid of the baby, making her seem as a caregiver archetype.
Hope
10:35
Maybe Tiresias is the mentor,  not to help Oedipus but maybe the people of Thebes to not trust their king.  Maybe his wisdom is directed more towards guiding what their city should do and who they should follow
Vivian W
10:33
I agree with Lauryn because Tiresias doesn't help Oedipus find out who the murderer is, he just gives him hints and then we don't hear from him again.
4
10:33
I agree Tiresuis did't guide Oedipus he just gave him information
Miss Miller
10:31
Reminder: give them about 5 minutes before any hot seat contributions
10:30
END MARXIST CHAT/ BEGIN ARCHETYPAL
Vivian W
10:29
I agree with Morgan because he mentioned them and their struggles, but just didn't put action behind most of what they were going through.
Lauryn
10:28
Greek myths such as Oedipus reveal aspects of ancient Greek Life. I find it interesting how this play has underlying messages of the danger of power and monarchies while ancient Greece was also the origin place of Democratic Government Styles.
Miss Miller
10:28
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Hope
10:27
Do you think that prophecies have more of a direct meaning and influence on those of power or the lower/working class? In this play, do you think the prophecies maybe represented a warning of what would happen if power was taken advantage of or not used properly?
22
10:27
I agree with Vivian because the gods know the fate of Oedipus with the prophecies and he isn't able to escape them no matter how hard he tried.
Miss Miller
10:27
I think our discussion is coming to an end...I will say no more hot seat for now!
Abbie
10:27
I agree with Vivian, but I also think Oedipus killing the Sphinx also contributed to strengthening his power.
13
10:26
I agree he seemed to care about his people and want to help but he doesn't listen when its revealed he's at fault and from there he got more selfish
Vivian W
10:26
I think social power influenced the story more than economic standing because they respected the gods a lot even though they didn't have economic power. Oedipus' power is also rooted in his leadership, not class.
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10:25
I think that because Oedipus has never truly lived the way the people of Thebes had he can't relate or see the world through their perspective. As he comes from an upper class background this is seen through the article Does Wealth Make you Less Empathetic? which states "upper class individuals are worse at recognizing the emotions of others and less likely to pay attention to people they are interacting with." This becomes evident as Oedipus only recognizes his own suffering and not the people of Thebes and overall doesn't pay much attention to the plague which is taking many lives. This also leads to some of his corruption as he doesn't overall care about the problems occurring to the people of Thebes but more on how all of it is affecting him which continues the cycle of issues Thebes was facing.
SuryaK
10:25
I don't know where corruption could fit in the story except for maybe how the power corrupted Oedipus' mind because he went from a hero to a paranoid king who was no longer hailed as the master of riddles. It could also be interpreted that Oedipus corrupted the government in the story and because of him everything fell apart and the people suffered, as his rule within the story goes from him caring about the people to him preserving his power.
22
10:24
This shows how the majority of people who come from a higher-class act which is kind of how Oedipus acts
10:23
The way that the chorus worships him and are loyal to him definitely boosts his ego but I think his rank as a noble leads also impacts the way he acts because in a study done by the National Library of Medicine it says, “higher‐class participants that makes them more selfish and therefore less likely to help others".
13
10:23
I think that him saving them and then being praised so highly caused him to thing higher of himself
Miss Miller
10:23
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10:22
Do you think Oedipus was always the way he was (when it comes to leading) or do you think power corrupted his judgement?
SuryaK
10:22
There was a part of the story where oedipus thought Jocasta feared the truth because Oedipus may have came from a slave background, this I think really reflects some of the ideas from this time period in Greece.
Abbie
10:21
I think that the lower class definitely reinforced Oedipus' ego as they never got angry at him and kept praising him until the end (where they shifted to pity).
Miss Miller
10:21
I would like to see some more discussion about the corruption of power...
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