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AvatarDavid Laurila
10:41
One thing fitting the script tonight is Astros batters striking out just three times thus far. They had the lowest K rate in MLB this year.
Ben Clemens
10:41
Yeah I think Lowe is a fine high ball hitter. No one in the world is a good Enoli Paredes hitter
When he's on
10:44
Tony and David, I'm curious what you think about batters who have never faced pitchers before
Does it matter? Would you consider it as a manager?
AvatarDavid Laurila
10:46
When Aaron Loup was in high-A, he was told to try dropping down to the side because a conventional delivery wasn't getting it done. He threw a ton of pitches in the bullpen during a game -- first time throwing sidearm -- and late in that same game he was brought in to pitch.
Ben Clemens
10:47
Let me also interject that goodness gracious, saying Loup is better against righties than lefties is WILDLY misleading
That was for batting average, for 2020 only
Tony Wolfe
10:47
I don't think it would give me pause? I might make sure he doesn't have terrible splits overall against arms who match the style of the guy on the mound, but for the most part I don't think it would cross my mind
Jordan
10:47
I think there's a lot to be said for the pitcher advantage first time facing a hitter. Especially with an unorthodox arm slot and an above average secondary pitch
Ben Clemens
10:47
Loup is MUCH worse against righties than lefties for his career
10:48
By wOBA, he's 16% worse against righties than lefties
Tony Wolfe
10:48
Yeah there are certain circumstances where I might consider it more but I don't think they'd come up much
AvatarDavid Laurila
10:48
I don't think not having faced a pitcher is nearly as important as the relative strengths and weaknesses.
Ben Clemens
10:48
Yeah David I agree with the way you phrased it exactly
If a guy is a good hitter against sidearmers, say
TKDC
10:49
Eric Hinske played in the WS three straight years, for three teams, Red Sox, Rays, Yankees (07-09)
Ben Clemens
10:49
(not sure if that's actually a hting, but let's say it is)
Lzfreak
10:49
Is Nick Anderson available?
Ben Clemens
10:49
Yes
Mike
10:49
It seems to me that the 'has never faced' thing only really matters for pitchers who have deceptive deliveries, especially if it's not deceptive in a common-ish way (ie a weird armslot but one you see in other players, etc)
Ben Clemens
10:50
I'd love to hear about various batters' first time facing Johnny Cueto
Bb
10:50
Or Nomo
Derek
10:51
Maybe every time facing Johnny Cueto feels like the first time
Johnny Cueto
10:51
*Shimmies*
Guest
10:52
We all agree facing the same batter multiple times in the same game leads to diminishing returns. How far does that extend? Multiple days in a row?
Ben Clemens
10:52
Ben Lindbergh wrote about this
let me see if I can find it
Tony Wolfe
10:53
ben the GOAT
AvatarDavid Laurila
10:53
I was at PNC for the Cueto-Cueto chant playoff game. The place was bedlam all night. Sucks that PNC is mostly empty a great majority of the time these days.
Ben Clemens
10:53
That was my pick for my favorite game to watch of the last 10 years when we picked YouTube clips earlier this year
Tony Wolfe
10:53
woah, diego castillo gets out of the bases loaded jam with a double play
Ben Clemens
10:54
Those chants were amazing
Tony Wolfe
10:54
that game will haunt me until I am dead
Derek
10:54
Well Castillo's appearance went juuuuust a bit more smoothly than Loup's!
BLAB
10:54
Wow!
4-3!
10:54
Who says baseball isn't fun?
Kiermaier's Piercing Green Eyes
10:54
Send Castillo back out for the 9th then?
Tony Wolfe
10:54
I would imagine Castillo gets the ninth, yeah
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