August Fagerstrom FanGraphs Chat -- 9/13/16
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august fagerstrom
1:56
this made me laugh
definitely watching for this now
although "base-rounding" is actually a fantastic "minor 80-grade tool" idea
might be my favorite one yet
Jack
1:57
80-grade minor skills- Josh Harrison avoiding tags
august fagerstrom
1:57
this is like the sixth guy which has been submitted for this, which in turn invalidates the 80 grades
starting to think every team has a guy whose fanbase think is the best at avoiding tags on their slides
1:58
Baez, Harrison, Lindor, Odor in today's chat, got a couple more on Twitter yesterday
Vic Romano
1:59
Is Molina really the "best defensive catcher ever"? I haven't done the research on it, so I don't know if that's something backed up by stats or just something that's been repeated so many times that it's assumed to be true?
august fagerstrom
36 runs behind Ausmus at the top spot
though he's also trailing Martin, who's also active
2:00
and, wow, now I'm questioning myself, because if I give Yadi HoF credit for his defense, he's 10 BWARP behind Martin, and I'd never even considered Martin for the HoF for a second
there's some sort of Yadi pitcher staff-handling magic that I can't ignore
2:01
I know it had a ton to do with the Cardinals player development and pitching coaches, but the fact that, like, every random, young pitcher that's come through the Cardinals organization over the last decade has been good with Yadi being the only real constant is something that makes me love Yadi more than the numbers do (and more than I probably should) and I don't know how to feel about it
2:02
It's not quantifiable. And it might not even be real. But I always tack on an extra, like, 10 wins to Yadi's career WAR for how good the Cardinals have been at pitching during his tenure there
Probably irresponsible and not grounded in reason, but sue me.
ernie camacho's specs
2:02
If 1b is the last resort for fielders, what do you do with good left-handed infielders? Not everyone is built to play the outfield (witty Hanley Ramirez aside coming)
august fagerstrom
2:02
You put them at first.
After they fail in left.
That's why first base is the last resort
jmarsh
2:03
Rizzo has an 80 grade for climbing on things to catch pop flies that are out of the field of play
august fagerstrom
2:03
second guy to mention this actually, forgot to push the first one through
Stinky Pete
2:03
Anthony Rizzo has 80-grade tarp and wall climbing skills. I'm still trying to figure out how he kept his balance on top of a concrete wall while wearing cleats.
august fagerstrom
2:03
taking mental note of this one for sure
jon
2:03
Yadi and the HoF: at some point, isn't there credit for longevity, especially in a position where durability is rare?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/Gm_c_career.shtml
august fagerstrom
2:03
This is part of it, too. The generally-accepted 65 WAR threshold for HoF seems unfair for catchers
Jack
2:04
20-grade minor skills: Andrew McCutchen throwing to the cutoff/correct base. Eric Fryer tag plays at the plate.
august fagerstrom
2:04
didn't know there was a McCutchen cutoff guy problem
I love the little things that you only pick up on if you watch a guy daily
Erik
2:04
If somebody has ALL the 80-grade minor tools mentioned here, how many extra WAR are they worth? Does it even add up to 1?
august fagerstrom
2:04
Seems fair to me
2:05
I gotta say, this 80-grade minor tools thing is probably my favorite chat segment ever
Sonny
2:05
80 Minor Skills: Bryce Harper's hair flips, David Ortiz's one button too many undone, Joey Votto's crowd work
august fagerstrom
2:05
not baseball-specific but still worthy of notice. Particularly the Votto crowd work
Andrus/Beltre have 80-grade comedic presence too
2-D
2:06
80-grade minor skills- Jose Ramirez's ability to always lose his helmet and look faster.
august fagerstrom
2:06
oh, yeah. Don't know how I missed this one.
Zack Meisel has actually been tracking this all season: https://twitter.com/search?q=jose%20ramirez%20helmet%20from%3A%40zackmeisel&src=typd
2:07
Ramirez is up to 37 helmet-flying-offs. Gotta lead the league
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