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Ben Clemens

2:32

I legitimately had no idea about this. I could believe it, though. It's interesting to me that we almost all picture Babe Ruth as an old fat guy.

I noticed this when watching Last Dance

2:33

Seeing active Magic Johnson and young Scottie Pippen really challenges my mental image of them

Not to mention rookie MJ, my goodness

Sam

2:33

Who would you have rather seen play baseball full time (by full time I mean starting their career at a typical age): Bo Jackson or Michael Jordan?

Ben Clemens

2:33

Probably Bo Jackson. He was more of a freak as an athlete, and I care less about missing out on Bo in football than I would missing out on Jordan in basketball

metsindc

2:34

Id mix Kopech and Kyle Hendricks.

Ben Clemens

2:34

Oh this is actually a great answer!

I should have Hendricks in mine somewhere

I guess the question is, could Hendricks command Kopech's fastball?

Or are we doing a different kind of chimera here?

Jeff

2:34

What would the public and media reaction be if was the players looking to renegoiate months adrer a deal like the owners are right now? My guess is there would be zeeeero discussuon of renegotiation and the MLBPA would be trashed for their greed...so same result lol

Ben Clemens

2:34

Oh yeah they'd get destroyed

Like, c'mon. This is so clearly in bad faith.

2:35

I always think of stereotypical villainous things owners could do, and I feel like they come through a lot of the time.

Jeff

2:35

Isn't it a little funny that fans and media had one universal player friendly stance - pay MiLers more - and the owners found a way to poop on it forever ASAP? IMO the familiars are worse than the owners because they empower

Ben Clemens

2:36

Yeah, I don't know what to say about that one. Owners did come up with a creative way of screwing minor leaguers

Just don't draft anyone so there are none left

2:37

But c'mon guys

Owners are systematically trying to pay people who already get paid nothing even less

That's not a secret!

No one's surprised by this. They've been doing it a while now.

Fans just don't seem to care enough

I don't know whether that's a journalistic failing, on people like me, or just a societal failing

But I really don't like it

2:38

The one thing about baseball that I strongly dislike, to be honest.

Jeff

2:38

How did the Dodgers manage to get both Graterol and a draft pick in that Betts deal? Smells fishy

Ben Clemens

2:38

Lol. I guess I'm answering a lot of your questions, but yeah

The Dodgers won that one solidly

I do think Maeda is underrated but yeah

Great deal

Jonesy Whales

2:38

Not sure the other options would be better, but I feel like 2 WAR players are also the ones who suffer the most in free agency these days

Ben Clemens

2:38

Yeah. With only seven years, you wouldn't get a strong FA deal, for sure.

But you'd probably hit some okay arb numbers.

Particularly Arb2 and Arb3

2:39

And if teams want to Chris Carter you, you could still do okay enough on the open market I think if you were young and average.

I'm not saying you'd get yacht money.

But Eric Sogard got 1/4.5

As that kind of guy

Whereas if you go, say, 1, 9, 0, 0, 0...

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