JotCast | Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat - 6/26/23

Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat - 6/26/23

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Ben Clemens

2:49

I dno't really have a horse in this particular race

but 'the rays are doing a thing so they must be right and the metrcis must be wrong' does not convince me

Steve Cohen

2:50

Do my Mets deserve a pass for trying to buy an winning MLB team while allowing the farm to grow? Process feels right even if there was a cheaper way to do it. Really thought I could Steinbrenner a winning club.

Ben Clemens

2:51

I think i agree with this

the process is hardly perfect and I think that you can make a solid argument that buck is starting to hurt more than he helps

But yeah, I think the idea of trying to build up the farm while spending an ungodly sum of money to keep the big league team cruising is good

bosoxforlife

2:52

On a scale of 1-100 how shocked are you that both the Mets and Cardinals are this bad?

Ben Clemens

2:52

pretty surprised

more by the Cardinals than by the Mets, the Mets had a lot of pitching health uncertainty and also a tougher division

SC

2:52

A friend of a friend works for the Rays. Met them at a Yankees Rays game a couple of months ago and Taylor Walls came up. They were really really insistent that publicly available analytics were out of line with the Rays internal analytics on Walls and that Walls was being severely underrated and the org loved him. Just FWIW

Ben Clemens

2:52

I mean

2:53

I'd be very concerned if you had a friend who works for the Rays, and he said "Oh yeah Taylor Walls sucks, we're running him out there to troll Tom Tango"

Baty for Coco Crisps

2:53

If Acuna has a 30/70 season but Arraez hits .400, does Arraez win MVP?

Ben Clemens

2:54

I'd give it to Acuna but I'm not sure what the voters would do

Marshall

2:54

Last week I had an epiphany that Tony Gonsolin has the 2nd highest ERA+ through 60 starts in the last 100 years (only Dwight Gooden was better). Since I realized this, Gonsolin has had two straight bad starts. How good do you think Gonsolin is?

Ben Clemens

2:55

I think he's a solid third starter who likely gets flattered by the Dodgers putting him in situations to succeed with a wonderful defense behind him

Maybe a weak two?

SC

2:55

I guess the key part was that the Rays were aware of the public data vs their own private data

Ben Clemens

2:56

Again, I

d be really worried if they weren't

Phil

2:56

If Arraez hits .400 he will definitely win MVP. If you're an AP writer, how do you explain to your editor voting any other way? It would be the biggest story in years, much bigger than Acuna having a really good but fundamentally Acunalike season.

Ben Clemens

2:57

I'm not sure the voters have to explain things to their editor, actually

but yeah, I think that a lot of people would vote for a .400 hitter b/c he hit 400

Izzy

2:57

I saw the article on Alexis Diaz earlier today. Do you think he's elite going forward, or just having an elite season.

Ben Clemens

2:58

I'd say having an elite season just because I don't trust relievers that much in the long run

2:59

but he looks very very good to me, i'd be happy to have him as my team's closer unless I had one of the ultra elite type guys

Clase and so on

Sonny

2:59

Acuna going 40/60 for a division winner would outweigh Arraez hitting .400 on a 3rd place team

Ben Clemens

2:59

I agree with you, to be cdlear, I'm just not entirely sure that we're the voting constituency

McGraw45

2:59

My dad grew up in San Diego and made me a Padres fan. I blame him for my frustration in life.

Ben Clemens

2:59

Presented without comment

Who's Fabio?

2:59

Do you still dust off the ole Exploding Kittens deck? Did they go too far with expansion packs or does that keep it interesting?

Ben Clemens

2:59

Only very occasionally but I do like the game

therea re just a lot of games these days

David

3:00

Not a question, just a comparison. The Alek Manor situation reminds me a lot of another Toronto Blue Jays pitcher--Ricky Romero. After winning 15 games with a 2.92 ERA in 2011 (when he was 26 and following two other good years), Romero fell apart the following season in 2012, with his ERA+ falling from 146 to 73, his ERA ballooning to 5.77, and issuing a league-leading 105 walks. He pitched 4 more games in 2013 and never pitched in the big leagues again.

Ben Clemens

3:00

Let's hope not!

3:01

Alright, it's noon and I've got to get out of here. Thanks a lot for spending time with me today and discussing all kinds of things

I really appreciate the questions, and I apologize if I didn't answer yours, hopefully I'll pick yours next time. Have a wonderful day, everyone

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