JotCast | Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat - 8/17/20

Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat - 8/17/20

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Ben Clemens

2:52

The Indians might be extremely motivated to deal Clevinger

2:54

Wilcox as a PTBNL and Campusano are probably enough of a headliner for two years of Clevinger

2+ rather

So I guess? I don't think the Indians would be willing to part with Naquin though which makes the whole thing sketchy

They BADLY need outfield depth, particularly lefty outfield depth, too

Julio Franco

2:54

My batting stance would beg to differ

Ben Clemens

2:55

Oh haha disagree. I spent so much of my youth emulating Sheffield's

As a Cardinals fan living in Tennessee, no less

It was just so cool

Lorenzo

2:55

Best batting stance ever is Rickey Henderson for me because he literally shrunk the strike zone. His OBP paved the way to one of the most unique HOF careers.

Ben Clemens

2:55

That's another really cool one, though Rickey's prime didn't overlap with my youth which disqualifies him for me

It has to be one that I imitated

But yeah, his is cool for sure

Matt

2:55

Can you recall a team (players, not execs) being so outwardly mad at a fellow player as the Cleveland Baseball Team are at the pitchers?

Siri

2:55

When do we see plesac and clevinger pitch again?

Ben Clemens

2:56

I really cannot

That Passan article was eye-opening

2:57

It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't pitch before September

And it wouldn't completely floor me if they didn't pitch again this year

Nick

2:57

Sonny Gray: odds on favorite to win the NL Cy Young this year?

Ben Clemens

2:59

I think that it's still deGrom unless he misses his next turn

And then after that I have Darvish a bit ahead of Gray

But quite close btw. Darvish and Gray

deGrom is just a cut above if he's healthy

And it's not like he's started slowly or anything

Greg

2:59

If Clevinger and Plesac lose a year of service time, are we going to see a grievance filed?

Ben Clemens

2:59

This is quite interesting actually

3:00

I think they'd probably try to file a grievance

I'm not sure the PA would be interested in it

3:01

I mean, half the team was saying they wouldn't play if these guys did

(probably a slight exaggeration on my part, to be clear)

Kris Bryant's grievance was a cause celebre with the MLBPA because everyone on the player side hates that teams manipulate playing time to cost players money

3:02

I'm not sure they'd be so in for getting players who willfully lied to and endangered their teammates a little extra dough

Greg

3:02

If the PA fails to file a grievance, will we see an unfair labor charge filed by Clevinger and Plesac with the NLRB against the PA for breaching its duty of fair representation?

Ben Clemens

3:02

So, definitely not a lawyer

Maybe? BUt I'm not sure, it's not really clear to me that this is being done for service time manipulation

3:03

I think the front office would prefer, all things being equal, having those guys in the rotation

viceroy

3:03

Expected playing time for the tigers prospects called up? Will they slot in the rotation or bullpen

Ben Clemens

3:03

They're slated to start tomorrow and Wednesday

So just regular rotation pieces it looks like

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