JotCast | Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat - 8/2/21

Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat - 8/2/21

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Andrew

2:13

Why were the Cubs unwilling to trade Bryant to the Mets, only to take a lesser haul for him from another team? If the Mets had waited out the clock could that have moved the needle?

Ben Clemens

2:14

You have to take the tick-tock that gets leaked to reporters with a grain of salt, because teams do it to make themselves look good

2:15

That said, I totally buy the idea that the Cubs had a big ask on Bryant

2:16

Unwilling to trade him, or they said Mauricio+ and the Mets read that as unwilling

So the Mets traded for Baez

But then the Cubs lost a bit of leverage, and just hit the bid

Think of it this way: if you know the Cubs will take either Bryant or Baez, and the return for Baez elsewhere is gonna be lower

2:17

Why not hold the Mets up for Baez only, then hit a lesser (but still higher than the return you'd get for Baez ex-Mets) bid elsewhere?

I actually think that was quite wise by the Cubs, and it happened to help the Giants out too

Northside

2:17

Are you predicting teams will offer 3/30 for Rizzo? That seems really low

Ben Clemens

2:17

I haven't thought about it much. Definitely not a prediction

Chris

2:18

"oh god don't trade with the rays" why is this a thing? I need an article!!

Ben Clemens

2:18

It's definitely a worthy article topic for sometimes

sometime*

They have their fair share of wins, but their fair share of losses too

I do think they're excellent at looking through fringe-y minor leaguers and finding guys who pop

2:19

And I think that's where a lot of it comes from

Keston Hiura

2:19

Been terrible this year. What are the chances the Brewers give me another starting shot in 2022?

Ben Clemens

2:19

I think they'll try

2:20

It's time for an extended analogy here that won't prove anything but is a story I like

In my previous job, I paid a lot of attention to Canadian economic data, and after one particularly bad release, RBC (who has the best research imo) put out a piece that said, in its entirety

2:21

"CAD Payrolls: An unmitigated disaster."

That's Hiura this year

I think you have to give him another shot, having seen what he did in 2019 and also in college

But I could see him not making it out of spring training with the job

He just looks SO lost

Appa Yip Yip

2:22

Who do you think Tyler Glasgow signs a two year deal with this offseason after the Rays non-tender him so they don't have to pay him 7 million to rehab his TJ?

Ben Clemens

2:22

Oh gosh, this is eerie

At 10:45, I pinged Meg with basically the same question

(are the Rays really going to non-tender Glasnow??)

I don't think they will! But ugh they might

Guest

2:22

Chances the Padres are a sleeper “winner” at the trade deadline? The prospect costs for good talent went WAY up and suddenly Tatis may be done for the year. So maybe they got lucky holding onto blue chip talent at a time when their title chances went down with Tatis’ shoulder?

Ben Clemens

2:23

Yeah, I could see them as a winner relative to their other options

2:24

They're still a loser overall, b/c they had a decent shot at the division and their rivals both got better

But relative to their other options, this might have been the best case

Sometimes things just suck and nothing you do was gonna fix them

Hank

2:24

Back to Voit... does he have any value if the Yankees are trying to deal him in the off season?

Ben Clemens

2:25

Less than you'd think, I bet. 1b-only righty making a decent amount of money, not really something teams prize these days

They'll get something if they decide to move him, but I don't think the bat is unquestionably elite to where you could get a big return

Derek

2:26

Acuna, deGrom, Tatis... ugh :( Is the NL MVP gonna come down to Wheeler vs. Burnes??? Maybe pick a Dodger hitter out of a hat?

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