JotCast | Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat - 12/15/22

Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat - 12/15/22

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Bald Fraud

1:12

As a dodger fan honestly our run last few yrs is remarkably similar to that of Man City, in terms of roster construction, and of course, overthinking in tournaments/playoffs that led to failures there

Who is the Bald Fraud of the MLB?

Dan Szymborski

1:12

I'm not sure and I don't quite understand the reference!

Devil Ray Jay Johnson

1:13

Do the Tigers or the Royals have a better situation? Or better plan if the situation depends on what you think they will do?

Dan Szymborski

1:13

I'd rather be the Tigers

Matt (Oceanside)

1:13

Hi Dan, Quick question regarding Steamers and Zips that you might have answered already. When I look at the projection leader boards, and depth charts, I noticed that the same player can have different WAR values. For example, Steamer on the leader board has Mookie at 5.9 WAR next season, but on his player page it's 5.7? Can you help me understand the difference?

Dan Szymborski

1:13

That I'm not sure about

I wonder if there's a disconnect in updating between the depth chart playing time and the leaderboards

I may look into that when I have a moment

TomBruno23

1:14

I think Roster Resource and the Cardinals account for the 16M from the Rockies for Arenado differently in 2023. What do you think? From Derrick Goold's stltoday story on 11/10/22, "That brings us to the money Colorado is sending to the Cardinals. And this is important when understanding the Cardinals’ view of their payroll headed into this offseason and 2023.
The Rockies agreed to send two guaranteed payments -- $14.4 million in 2021 and $16 million in 2023. Both payments are related to his 2021 salary.

The first one paid part of his salary for that season.
The second pays the deferred part of his salary from that season.
That $16 million does not count as a rebate on Arenado’s 2023 salary with the Cardinals, per source.
That’s not how the trade was structured.
Remember the reports at the time of the trade about how the Cardinals were not going to pay any of Arenado’s 2021 salary, or that the Rockies were ultimately covering the entirety of it....

"That is where this $16 million comes in and why it was not contingent on Arenado accepting his opt-out. I know: The layered deferred makes this confusing, and it’s one reason I’ve tried to write it as clearly as I could with what I could confirm. Now, with more understanding, I can explain even more.The Rockies, in an agreement with Arenado, deferred a substantial portion of his 2021 salary to make the trade happen. The $16 million coming in 2023 goes toward the money owed Arenado in the 2021 season and covered by the Rockies to make the deal possible for the Cardinals. This is one example of how deferred money helps a team. Again, it is not a subtraction from the coming year’s payroll for the Cardinals, per sources."

Dan Szymborski

1:14

I'd have to look into this as I do not maintain those pages!

The discrepancy is new to me as of this moment so I haven't had time to react

1:15

Generally speaking, guys, it's best to DM me these things on Twitter so that I can have time to react

Christian Colón for Men

1:15

Best cheese to put on the Christmas cheese plate?

Dan Szymborski

1:15

Whatever you have the most of that I'm allowed to steal

This was a conversation when my mom was over the other day

"Danny what are you doing with all that cheese in your fridge?"

1:16

"Eating it."

"I mean what are you making with it."

"Cheese"

"No, I mean like if you're using it for some recipe."

"I'm cutting it up and sticking it in my mouth."

TomBruno23

1:16

Is Rodon looking at 7/200 in this market?

Dan Szymborski

1:16

He might be

though I think I'd *still* take the under

Christian Colón for Men

1:17

What would be the most Rockies free agent signing this offseason?

Dan Szymborski

1:17

Andrew Benintendi 6/120

Or is that too plausibly not horrible given this year's spending?

1:18

How about Craig Kimbrel 3/50?

Jeremy

1:19

Is there any new information or data source on the horizon that you look forward to incorporating into ZIPS, because it will materially improve the projections?

Dan Szymborski

1:19

I'm curious to see some of the bat data

Trea Turner Overdrive

1:20

Which relatively uncelebrated players from the 1980s would be considered stars now based on what we know now (e.g., OBP, statcast data, defensive metrics, non-ERA pitching metrics)?

Dan Szymborski

1:20

Lou Whitaker

I know, I know, he was considered a star

BUT HE WAS ONE AND OUTED

1:21

While Jack "Kevin Appier with a whole bunch of horrible pitching tacked on" Morris is in the Hall

Maybe Dwayne Murphy? Chet Lemon?

1:22

Mike Witt is horribly underrated

1:23

Mark Langston's criminally underrated too

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