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Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat - 12/5/16
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Coppy
12:12
We're only in on Sale to jack up the price for the Nationals, right? If we really wanted him, what would a package not including Swanson even look like?
Is Albies + Newcomb/Allard + Adonis Garcis + Rio Ruiz + a million other insignificant throw-ins enough?
AvatarDan Szymborski
12:13
I wouldn't think Garcia would hold much interest for White Sox, though again, Avi wasn't cut.
Without swanson, I t hink you likely have to go Albie+Newcomb or Allard + more.
12:14
The Sox are really hard to gauge, simply because we still don't *know* how serious they are.
greg
12:15
If you're Daniels, what do you offer for Billy Hamilton?
AvatarDan Szymborski
12:15
Honestly, I think the Reds aren't at the point where they would trade him unless they were bowled over by an offer.
12:16
I don't think they can just throw Connor Sadzeck or an equivalent name out there and get the Reds to bite
Pearced
12:16
Do you have zips for Pearce in TO?
AvatarDan Szymborski
12:16
On Twitter.
MD
12:16
In such a weak pitching market, what targets could the Yanks find on the trade front that could be buy low and fit their current trend of acquisitions?
AvatarDan Szymborski
12:16
The problem is that the trends in the market really point against the availability of buy low signings for desirable pitchers.
12:17
Certainly not someone better than Eovaldi, who they could have had for just money.
CamdenWarehouse
12:18
How am I supposed to learn anything about pitcher quality if you won't include wins in ZiPS?
AvatarDan Szymborski
12:18
heh
CamdenWarehouse
12:18
Taijuan's number one comp is Ponson. That's rough, man.
anonymous
12:18
"Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat - 12/5/16... by Carson Cistulli" I reject this ridiculous premise
AvatarDan Szymborski
12:18
The post announcing the Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat is by Carson Cistulli.
12:19
Kinda like how Beane didn't write Moneyball.
Chaps
12:21
If the Astros can't land Sale/Archer, do you think they try to pursue Hill, trade for a middle-of-the-rotation kind of pitcher, or stay put and trust their farm system?
AvatarDan Szymborski
12:22
Hill would probably be off the table by that point.
And they'll explore trades in the event they can't land any of the first three names, but I don't think there's anyone else that they'd really *have to* have.
CamdenWarehouse
12:23
Do the non-tenders of Ross and Castillo make sense to you?
AvatarDan Szymborski
12:23
Beef Welington, no.
Ross is tricky. As has been noted, there's a giant difference between Steamer and ZiPS projection for him, Steamer has him at 3.5 WAR, ZiPS 1.2.
I'm guessing the Padres are more on the ZiPS side of this one, else they never would have non-tendered him.
Matt
12:23
Lets get EE in Colorado somehow. That lineup!!!
AvatarDan Szymborski
12:24
I'd love the Rockies to sign Encarnacion *and* Trumbo and watch the confusion as they can't understand when they're 78-84.
Steve
12:24
That Steve Pierce contract seems like a pretty good bargain doesn't it?
AvatarDan Szymborski
12:24
Pearce's deal is a good one.
5 Run Homer
12:24
Where does Bautista land?
AvatarDan Szymborski
12:24
He's in a tricky position given that the market actually has corner outfield DH tyeps.
12:25
Would love to see him in Baltimore with Pearce off the table.
Von Schloss
12:25
Do you see the White Sox going full fire sale?
AvatarDan Szymborski
12:25
No
CamdenWarehouse
12:25
The MLBPA is looking pretty weak right now isn't it?
AvatarDan Szymborski
12:25
It's been for a while. The current players are still living off the bounty that the players planted in the 70s-90s.
The MLBPA has been fractured when it comes to drug policy.
(The owners don't actually really care about PEDs, but it was a great opportunity to divide the union)
12:27
And if Miller/Fehr were in charge, they *never* would have agreed to that domestic abuse policy. Not that they wouldn't agree to one, but make the commissioner the sole authority, with no maximum penalty? Not a chance.
Having an arbitration appeal is a poor check on giving the commissioner unlimited authority.
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