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Eric A Longenhagen
12:19
Hello hello from the kitchen counter in scorching hot Tempe, AZ.
12:20
Let's get right into it.
Jeb
12:20
Can you please enlighten me and everyone what the hell the Pirates are doing? None of yesterday made sense whatsoever
Kevin
12:20
Cherington has to be gone by the end of the year, right? Right?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:24
Lots of Pirates fan discontent in the chat. I am curious what their best offers were for IKF, Santana and Heaney during the last couple of weeks, I know they like Stafura more than I do, I think they got a couple short term role playing pieces (Flores, Devanney) and I think we need to see these guys, Yorke, etc. the players they've acquired in these seemingly always medium deadline deals actually be given the opportunity to do something
12:25
I'm not about to call for anyone's job when I know they're underfunded.
Hazmat Corntail
12:25
With Cortes out in Milwaukee, is that good news for us Henderson owners? Any chance of a shorter path for him back to the rotation?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:26
It'll probably take someone getting injured for that, given how well Preister has been pitching.
Tim
12:26
Florentino continues to rake. What is his upside now compared to the beginning of the season?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:28
He's good, doesn't have crazy raw power right now but he's hitting for plus contact despite having a high-effort cut, and his swing is actualized to get to the power he does have. I think he's going to be a good player and had him stuffed coming into the year, but I'm clear-eyed about his timeline.
The thing I need to do is sit and watch him play CF and see how that looks, if he can actually do that then we're talking about an star player instead of just a good one
Southside Sal
12:28
Could we look back on the Houser/Mead trade in 5 years as the biggest win of the deadline? Mead was consistently a T100 prospect that never got runway in Tampa given they have Caminero, Aranda, Yandy, and B Lowe. He has good bat speed, has drastically cut his chase, still doesn't whiff, and plays a serviceable 3B, 2B and 1B. After a bad April he's run a 119 wRC+ in the majors all without consistent playing time. 5 years of this for a rental backend guy like Houser feels like the types of moves this FO should be making.
Eric A Longenhagen
12:29
Yep, take advantage of the teams with depth where you can the same way they did with Meidroth. Mead is talented but flawed and hasn't had a chance to iron out those issues with extended playing time. They got depth arms in Davitt and Peoples, too.
Josh
12:29
Based on who was traded the last few days, how do you think teams are valuing prospects compared to past deadlines? Padres notwithstanding, it seems that not as many "top" guys moved compared to recent years.
Eric A Longenhagen
12:30
It's now about getting depth and trying to coax ceiling out of that depth via development.
Or it's about trying to get in on the ground floor before a guy has broken out, with Junior Caminero being the Platonic Ideal example of this.
Mike
12:30
You aren't nearly as high on the Twins Duran trade. Thoughts? Also, if a team believes in ERod and Jenkins, why acquire three high minors, majors, OF? Outman? Really? Sorry for the rant questions.
Eric A Longenhagen
12:32
I really like Tait, just because he's not on my top 100 or whatever doesn't mean I dislike him. He's very, very chase-prone. That can have profound long-term impacts on your output. Look at Michael Harris, look at Jeremy Pena, look at Jorge Alfaro... there's year-to-year variation in their performance in part because they swing so much. That's likely to apply to Tait, too. So it's hard to windmill slam him into my Top 50 or whatever when I've been burned by doing so many, many times in the past.
J36T
12:32
How much stock do you put in to a prospect like DeVries getting dealt?  Is this Preller doing what he does and ultimately trying to keep his job, or do the Padres see something in DeVries that lowers their range of outcomes compared to the rest of the evaluators? Asking this specifically because you are a touch lower than others on his ceiling.
Eric A Longenhagen
12:34
I think it's probably some of both. The Padres are happy to tell the prospect-writing world their players are great and knowingly have the Robby Snellings of the world overrated as a way of inflating their value in the public consciousness. They've also traded James Wood. I think they like Leo a lot, they invested a ton of time into landing him and I think learned from the way they pushed Ethan too much and hurt his dev.
Jim
12:34
What is your take on the Braves farm systems and failure on the international side? I know they are good at developing pitching but something is missing with their positional prospects. All of their big signings have been a disaster(Perdomo, Tavares, Guanipa, Benitez, Glod, Tornes).
Eric A Longenhagen
12:35
They put too many eggs in one basket every year.
Cool your jets on Tornes, though.
Scioscia
12:35
Who are your favorites to keep an eye on from the ACL champs Angels team?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:35
Trey Gregory Alford
12:36
After him Anyelo Marquez (can hit) and Hayden Alvarez (huge projection), then little sleeper Marlon Quintero
Blerg
12:36
Any info on why Josue de Paula was put on IL?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:36
Not off the top but I'll work on getting that as chat progresses.
Archer
12:37
Max Clark moved up FV in your midseason rankings but didn't get a blurb, has he made notable leaps or has he just performed long enough to warrant the bump?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:37
The latter, he's just proven it over and over again. Power still isn't totally actualized but he sizzles it enough I don't care.
Will
12:37
What are your thoughts about the Orioles' deadline acquisitions? Should they have hung onto Laureano or was the deal with the Padres worth the loss of a potentially valuable contributor for next year?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:39
I'm fine moving him, Father Time has gotta be creeping there, right? Baltimore I think now has the deepest farm system since I've been doing this, with 70+ guys who I think could have major league value. I think it's interesting they got players from a place with a poor dev track record and now can try to apply what seem like better methods to a huge group of players.
12:40
If I have one gripe it's that basically all of these guys are far, far away from paydirt.
Like, you wanna tilt with the big clubs next year, right?
Guest
12:40
I saw Trey Gregory-Alford got moved up quite a bit in the Angels list- what’s he doing differently?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:42
Totally remade his body, sat 96-99 for seven innings in his ACL playoff start, threw strikes, threw a couple 90 mph sliders, touched 99 in the 7th, was stomping all over the mound and absolutely shoved.
I'll try to get video up this weekend.
Jaygray007
12:42
Would you say that an 80th-ish percentile outcome of Rafael Flores is something like "Gary Sanchez's career rates"?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:43
That's more like 95th%
His arm is like 3 grades worse than Sanchez
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