JotCast | FanGraphs After Dark Chat - 11/7/17

FanGraphs After Dark Chat - 11/7/17

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Paul Swydan

6:21

Do you think the Hall of Fame should waive the fifth year of Roy Halladay's waiting period and put him on the ballot this year instead of next year?

Yes (35.8% | 95 votes)

No (33.2% | 88 votes)

I'd like to say yes, but with the ballot so crowded I'm afraid he might crowd out someone deserving. (22.6% | 60 votes)

I can't decide (8.3% | 22 votes)

Total Votes: 265

9:01

Hi everybody.

hscer

9:02

I wonder what we're going to be talking about...sigh...

Nic

9:02

RIP Roy Halladay.You will be remembered.

Nathan

9:02

RIP Roy Halladay

Pablo

9:02

Just dug my Doctober shirt out from under my bed and put it in the wash so that I can wear it out this weekend. If you see me at the UT game or around Austin please say hello. RIP

Long Live Jeff Frye

9:02

I am really shocked at the Halladay news. As a Red Sox fan, I saw him pretty often with Toronto, and he was someone I had enormous respect for on a team I otherwise disliked. Smart and preternaturally *steady* pitcher.

Blueyays

9:02

I'm really sad. I'd been planning on going to Cooperstown in a couple of years for Doc's induction and seeing the city. Now I won't get to see that, or his number being retired at the SkyDome. I was just reading through his Twitter the other day... I don't really have much to say, but I'm really sad that he's suddenly gone. Without even realising it, lots of my future baseball plans involved the Doc.

Jeff Zimmerman

9:03

A sad day indeed.

Paul Swydan

9:04

I would echo LLJF's comments. I would say that Halladay and Mike Mussina are two of the pitchers who I always feared when they pitched against the Red Sox. When I moved to Colorado, and started being involved with high school baseball through the Rockies, I remember everyone speaking so highly of Halladay. It really is a shame. May his memory be eternal.

Satya

9:04

Could a Matt Kemp-Rusney Castillo trade make sense?

Paul Swydan

9:05

Some non-Halladay questions are in the queue too.

Jeff Zimmerman

9:05

Trading junk, why not?

Paul Swydan

9:05

I would say no, because right now, Castillo isn't on the Sox's luxury tax bill. Kemp would be.

Aaron

9:05

Chances the HoF waives the 5 year period for Doc?

Rob

9:06

What are the odds the Hall of Fame holds a special election for Roy Halladay? The last guy to get such an election also died in a plane accident.

Jeff Zimmerman

9:06

Maybe but not sure

Paul Swydan

9:07

So, I made this the poll today. I lean toward no. As sad as it is, I think Halladay's situation and Clemente's situation are only similar in the end result of a plane accident. And I think there are also probably logistical considerations. The ballots may actually have already been mailed out? Or we're too close to them being mailed out to be rewritten? Not sure.

Jackson

9:07

What would you blame the Red Sox's collective downswing in hitting on, and do they right the ship in 2018?

Paul Swydan

9:09

I don't know that I blame it on any one thing. Ramirez and Pedroia were seriously hurt. Bogaerts got hit on the hand and kept playing.

Jeff Zimmerman

9:09

I think the drop was from basically playing hitters who were hurt (Moreland, Xander, Dustin). The team needed to let them rest and get healthy.

Paul Swydan

9:10

Yeah, I guess you could coalesce that narrative into "lack of depth." Or, effective depth. The team REFUSED to move on from Chris Young and Brock Holt even after it was clear toward the end of August that they needed to upgrade.

Trade Bait

9:10

Odds Ellsbury gets Traded,if so where?

Paul Swydan

9:11

He's still a league average player, but I don't see a huge market for him even if the Yankees eat all of his salary, so I think it would make more sense for them to just hang on to him.

Jeff Zimmerman

9:11

10%.

joe

9:11

With the Cubs, Astros, Nationals, and Dodgers not being able to offer Otani more than 300k, the Yankees have to be considered the favorite, no?

Paul Swydan

9:12

Well, they might be, but not for that reason. If he's willing to not wait for a $500 million payday or whatever he'd get as a free agent, he's probably not too concerned between the difference of $300k and $10 million.

Brandon M

9:13

The Rangers are being rumoured as a potential landing spot for Arrieta. Do you think this is a logical fit, or does he go elsewhere?

Jeff Zimmerman

9:13

It's whatever deal he makes with a team for them to offer a year after he signs. It's not going to be just for $300K

9:14

I could see it but he's likely to sign somewhere else. Thin pitching free agent market

Paul Swydan

9:15

So, it took Arrieta eight years to get through arbitration, which is long for someone who has become a high-value player. I think that he is simply going to take the most money that is offered to him. Would he fit on the Rangers? Sure. But they'd have to offer him the most money.

Andrew

9:15

Given that corner sluggers are so very cheap right now, should teams start buying up corner power hitters like JD Martinez anticipating that their value is at the lowest it will be? I can't imagine the ball gets "juicier," but even if it does power hitters hardly have negative value. If free agent prices are depressed anything like trade values, I could see power hitters being the new market inefficiency.

Paul Swydan

9:16

I mean, that was basically the logic that Theo Epstein was using when he snapped up Millar, Jeremy Giambi and that David Ortiz guy heading into the 2003 season. It may be happening again right now, but with so many teams being willing to carry an 8th reliever during the season, the math on how many sluggers you can carry may have changed.

Jeff Zimmerman

9:17

I think power only guys (Chris Carter) will still be depressed. The player needs some other skill. JD can play in the OF

Oddball Herrera

9:18

I'm as shocked by Halladay's death as the next guy, but what purpose is served by waiving the fifth year? Admittedly I am a practical creature so sometimes symbolic stuff does not compute

Jeff Zimmerman

9:18

I'm really not sure.

Paul Swydan

9:18

I don't know that there is any purpose other than trying to heal those who are affected by his loss. Whether allowing him to be voted on a year early will actually accomplish that goal is certainly up for debate, but I would think that's the reason.

We love you Roy

9:19

I was too young to ever remember Halliday pitching for the Blue Jays, and yet I still felt his impact at the Rogers centre. He did so much for the Blue Jays and the community, he truly was one of the greatest.

Paul Swydan

9:19

Well said.

Stevil

9:19

Hey Paul, I'm curious what you think the Brewers should do with Braun. Keep him and play him, or move him and eat considerable salary like the Reds did with Phillips.

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