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Ben Clemens
8:55
What, so he can drop that too?
RTJ
8:55
maybe a butterfingers
Sharps
8:56
alright ben that one got me laughing.
bosoxforlife
8:56
It is really hard to tell what is a mistake. Some of these flamethrowers are happy to find the zone.
Ben Clemens
8:56
It's reallllly hard. I've tried a few times before and given up every time. That was really more of a sarcastic dibs. But maybe I'll get it right this time...
Kyle Kishimoto
8:56
that's something i'd love to research but i can see why it's so difficult
Ben Clemens
8:57
The 'giving a pitcher a chance to work himself into trouble thing' is an interesting theory by SMoltz
Phil
8:57
My friend once tried to catch a line drive homer at old Tiger Stadium (long before exit velo, but he said it was a rope). It hurt a lot and he dropped it, which was perhaps a predictable result.
i read fangraphs
8:57
People joke about having a normal guy run alongside Olympians for a sprint to provide context about how great those athletes are, but watching ordinary people attempt to catch HR balls really does get some of the same result
Joe
8:57
My friend broke his hand before game six of the 1997 alcs when manny Ramirez hit a rope in batting practice. He dropped the ball too.
Ben Clemens
8:57
In batting practice! Oh no
Ben Clemens
8:57
It's especially interesting given that he spent the entire PHI/SD series talking about what a bad idea it was to take the first pitch
Jeremy
8:57
The kid was smiling, I think he's fine. But someone should buy him an ice cream anyway.
Davy Andrews
8:57
Jeremy gets it.
Ben Clemens
8:58
Given how wide the zone has been tonight, you reallllly can't take that one and act surprised
I don't think Maldonado did himself any favors there either
'the room for error to get a strike called is very small' uh, disagree
Davy Andrews
8:58
I do love it when the catcher turns around and says, "I want that one when I'm back here."
Sharps
8:58
Looks like Suarez is only owning the inside against righties because he's being gifted it.
Kyle Kishimoto
8:58
both strike 2 and 3 to maldy were in the zone
Ben Clemens
8:59
yeah. The zone has been wildly inconsistent all night. It's sometimes very wide inside but definitely not always
Kyle Kishimoto
8:59
the 2 really bad calls to chas were the only calls inside out of the zone that have been given to ranger so far
Ben Clemens
8:59
THey might be the only two called strikes outside the zone period
I feel like it has also tightened down a bit at times
9:00
Umpiring is hard, zones are naturally inconsistent, etc.
If I wer Suarez, though, I'd be willing to try those gloveside sinkers a lot more given the way this game has been going
Jeremy
9:00
Suarez really is a good fielder, but I don't think that comebacker really showed it.
Ben Clemens
9:01
Totally agree
Davy Andrews
9:00
Worth noting that the rectangle on the screen seems to be higher than Statcast's zone. On baseball savant that second pitch to Pena was easily within the box.
Ben Clemens
9:01
I wonder if the intermittent disappearing is a sign that they're having trouble with calibration
Ben Clemens
9:01
Suarez is really underrated. The only thing that he's properly rated at might be defense
Kyle Kishimoto
bosoxforlife
9:03
I agree that umpiring is hard so where do stand on ABS?
Ben Clemens
9:03
I really want them to use the challenge system. It keeps receiving in the game generally, preserves the whole 50/50 ball nature that I generally like, and is fun for fans in the way that tennis challenges are.
Davy Andrews
9:04
I have reluctantly come to the same place. I think I am more anti-robo ump than most people, but this seems like the way.
Kyle Kishimoto
9:05
i was reluctantly pro robo ump until i saw how well the challenge system was working and now i'm very pro challenge system, keeps the ridiculous calls right but still lets framing be a skill and i think that's good
Phil
9:04
So here's a theory I'm working on: a roboump would eventually benefit ultra-selective types and hurt guys like Altuve and Devers who are good at hitting out-of-zone pitches. Does this make sense, or is selectivity better regardless of the consistency of the ump?
Kyle Kishimoto
9:04
i believe under the current system there are more out of zone pitches called strikes than in zone pitches called balls, so i agree this would probaly help hitters who don't chase but i'm not sure how big the magnitude of this would be
bosoxforlife
9:05
I have been quite interested in challenge system. It seems like a reasonable compromise even though I would prefer the full ABS.
Ben Clemens
9:05
Another benefit. Can you imagine the annoyed challenge signal Manny Machado will make?
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