JotCast | FanGraphs White Sox/Astros ALDS Game 4 Chat

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Ben Clemens

2:09

Gratuitous Brady Aiken dig there by the announcers

2:10

You have to love that Alex Cintron told Verducci "our hitters are going to take take take"

Kevin Goldstein

2:10

108 mph off the bat on that Altuve double.

Ben Clemens

2:10

Shows how valuable those interviews are

Mitch

2:10

With the season on the line would you turn to Hendriks to get you out of a jam in lets say the 4th inning today? Gotta make sure he's in the game before its out of reach right?

Ben Clemens

2:10

I would

Kevin Goldstein

2:10

I think it would take a remarkable situation to see him before the seventh.

Ben Clemens

2:10

I don't think Tony will

2:11

Hendriks seems like he would be very up for it, which makes it an easier call

Kevin Goldstein

2:12

Whoa. 97 mph FB to Bregman.....

Ben Clemens

2:12

Wow

I love that he's screaming to the dugout about it lol

Think he was worried about whether he had his good stuff?

Kevin Goldstein

2:12

WHOA. 99 mph!

Geebs

2:13

Will a player take less not to play in Toronto? (not because T.O. is bad but just the logistics of playing out of the U.S.)

Kevin Goldstein

2:13

They'll take less because of the taxes.

This game just got very interesting.

I mean, it already was! MORE interesting.

Ben Clemens

2:13

Guess he's back!

Geebs

2:13

I would consider taxes logistics in this instance

Ben Clemens

2:14

Good thing you aren't an accountant

Kevin Goldstein

2:15

Then yes. Taxes an be huge when you are talking baseball money. When I was with Houston, if a player had a $10m offer from a team in California, Hoston could offer $9m and be right there because no state taxes in Texas (Florida too).

richwp01

2:15

Do the teams calculate some of the taxes when making offers? White Sox made biggest offer to Wheeler, but I heard taxes made it moot. (Baseball taxes are weird, based on home and away games...)

Kevin Goldstein

2:15

Yes. Taxes are always considered.

Ben Clemens

2:15

Look at the Dodgers' weirdo deal with Mookie Betts as an example

2:16

They structured it with some interesting bonuses and deferrals so that he could receive a big chunk of his money in his state of residence, Tennessee

(no state income tax, go vols)

Kevin Goldstein

2:16

That might be the most exciting top of an inning int he playoffs so far.

Geebs

2:17

I've been told but never been able to verify - are Blue Jays contracts in CND dollars? If that's the case that has to be a consideration

Ben Clemens

2:17

This might be in my area of expertise for once

2:18

The reported salaries are converted

Kevin Goldstein

2:18

Yeah, you are working in Canada, so you get paid in Canadian money. Offers are made in $USD so there's no confusion.

Ben Clemens

2:18

And for numbers that big, the logistics of switching between currencies are seamless

If you are getting $10mm CAD but you don't want CAD, your private wealth banker will just set up an auto conversion

(players with contracts like that have people that do this)

Kevin Goldstein

2:19

Taxes for baseball players are kind of amazing. Real pain in the ass as they have to file in every state they play in.

Andy

2:19

It would be very hard to hit Jake Arrieta, if both he and DeGrom were standing on the mound and you didn't know which one had the ball.

Ben Clemens

2:19

This brings up an interesting question: how bad of pitchers could you put on the mound two at once

And get away with it

2:20

Like, could you do Arrieta and current CC Sabathia?

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