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AvatarDan Szymborski
9:25
And a salary floor just forces small market teams to overpay in their down cycles to no benefit.
Molina Mo Problems
9:26
then in this system, is anyone incentivized to spend? other than owners wanting W's?
AvatarAlex Sonty
9:26
What crap teams do with a floor is overpay 2-3 win players like 4-6 win players and cheap it up everywhere else.
AvatarDan Szymborski
9:26
Teams that see increased revenue from wins have a financial incentive.
Harmon Ripkowski
9:27
I keep reading TB, Dan, as tuberculosis...that probably wouldn't change revenue either
Whitty
9:27
The Astros have won just one postseason game in which they trailed by 5+ runs: the 18 inning 2005 NLDS Game 4 against the Braves. (via Sarah Langs)
A
9:28
That Red Sox Astros game (I think game 3) was brutal
AvatarDavid Laurila
9:28
Didn’t have work obligations that day, so watched in a bar with friends. Blowout with Guinness.
Kevin Z.
9:28
They’re all big markets, and they’re all professional hitters
Lzfreak
9:28
The Rays are good though
AvatarAlex Sonty
9:28
Rays are damn good
sadtrombone
9:29
I agree that revenue sharing should make teams more competitive, and that should be the goal...but every proposal I've seen as an alternative to this system docks teams for not winning. And that creates some vicious cycles with payroll. If you can come up with a method that incentivizes winning without making it impossible for bad teams to get good I'd love to hear it.
AvatarAlex Sonty
9:29
The fanbase incentivizes winning
5 Run Homer
9:29
if you think free agency is broken now, just wait til you see it with a salary cap…
AvatarAlex Sonty
9:29
Such a mess
AvatarDan Szymborski
9:30
I missed the 8th and 9th in that 2005 NLDS game
JamesD84
9:30
Minor leaguer John Smoltz for Doyle Alexander worked out pretty well in the short term for Detroit and in the long term for Atlanta.
AvatarDavid Laurila
9:31
Smoltz had a 5.68 ERA and nearly as many walks as strikeouts in Double-A when that trade was made. Alexander went 9-0, 1.53 with the Tigers after the trade.
ChuckNChino
9:31
TB is good and gonna be good for a long while too -- what a pipeline of talent
Mateo
9:31
But what would the Rays be without Jeff Sullivan?
AvatarDan Szymborski
9:31
I had plans that night, IIRC it was to go to Padonia Station and meet my friend Jay because Padonia Station had all you can eat nuclear wings for $9.99 during afternoon football.
9:32
I went to go to the bathroom and take a shower after McCann's homer in the 8th.
SO I missed the comeback
Jake Cave
9:32
What % chance is there that a salary cap and/or floor are implemented in the CBA?
AvatarAlex Sonty
9:32
I don't think the salary cap in MLB is worthy of a conversation, tbh, It's a fun thought experiment. It's an idea. But that's all it is.
AvatarDan Szymborski
9:32
1%
Phil
9:33
Is this game out of hand enough that I can ask totally off-topic questions such as whether Franchy Cordero could still have a future?
AvatarDavid Laurila
9:33
You can, and my best guest is no. When Boston acquired Franchy, I suggested he was akin to a LHH Wily Mo Pena.
Phil
9:34
Doyle Alexander is one of those guys who was better in his 30s than his 20s, which seems pretty rare for a pitcher.
ChuckNChino
9:34
Morton hurt could get HOU back in this game
TStats
9:34
Oh no... not Morton
Molina Mo Problems
9:34
True or false - Rays trade Wander Franco before 2025 season
AvatarDavid Laurila
9:34
False.
Slew(Seattle)
9:35
I hate injuries
AvatarDan Szymborski
9:37
Even if you got players interested in a salary cap/floor, the numbers are really far apart
The owners proposal of 100-180 million for luxury tax would have reduced total payrolls by about $150 million
Phil
9:37
But if TB has no incentive to be good, then why do they try so hard to be good without spending? Clearly there's some incentive.
AvatarDan Szymborski
9:37
They have an incentive, but a financial one means that when the choice is money or winning, money wins
Blue Morpho
9:38
Which team would benefit the most from the services of recent free agent Dave Cameron?
AvatarDavid Laurila
9:38
Team FanGraphs.
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