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Chad Young
10:05
I also think it is easy to say, "they could have just signed him as a FA" but that is probably not true - if he gets traded to another team willing to make a similar offer, he likely signs there. the exclusive negotiating window is valuable
AvatarDan Szymborski
10:05
Of course that wasn't intentional, WTF Bob
Chamaco
10:06
They could have Rosario, Giménez and Lindor if they signed him as a FA. Or Rosario, Giménez and the money they paid Lindor could go to pitching.
Ben Clemens
10:06
I just disagree
There's no guarantee these guys would hit as well, and they DID spend money on pitching
you wanted them to come into 2022 with more than Scherzer/dG/Bassitt/Carrasco/Walker?
Who would have signed there??
"Hey Carlos Rodon, want to be a sixth starter maybe?"
Mitch Kay
10:06
I am a little late to the party on this, but I'm sure its hard to pull Quantrill after 2 times through the order, when he was throwing that well. Guradians had enough good arms they could have bullpen 5-9 and been okay for game 2
Chad Young
10:07
Especially with an off-day tomorrow, and maybe another on Thursday. The way the schedule is set up, there was no reason to save your pen today.
NobleHelium
10:09
I think reluctance to bring in relievers is more about reducing reliever exposure over the series than issues with rest and workload.
Ben Clemens
10:09
If that's the case, it's misplaced. Any marginal reliever performance loss due to familiarity is dwarfed by Cal Quantrill's TTO
Ben Clemens
10:09
If it's Shane Bieber that's one thing. Quantrill? Gimme the pen
Hugh Duffy
10:10
The problem is you're bringing in a fresh reliever to face Judge. If they don't have it, that could also end badly.
Ben Clemens
10:10
There's no evidence this effect is real
Good talking point, but they might also MEGAHAVEIT
Judge beats good relievers sometimes too
Chad Young
10:11
honestly, i have no issue wiht letting Quantrill face Judge with instructions to accept a walk and not give in
AvatarDavid Laurila
10:11
Random Cleveland baseball history: Mel Harder was a good pitcher for a long time and is considered by many to have been the first real pitching coach -- and a very good one.
Ben Clemens
10:11
That's true, I'd be okay with that I guess?
Chad Young
10:12
But I don't get letting him face Rizzo with a man on after he lost Judge
Ben Clemens
10:12
David, in OOTP's historical player card collection game, there is an AWESOME Mel Harder card
He's become a huge favorite of mine as a result
10:13
I've read through his SABR biography a few times
AvatarDavid Laurila
10:14
Not much BABIP luck for the Guardians -- a team that relies more than most teams on BABIP luck -- tonight.
Bat
10:14
My main issue with the Lindor trade wasn't the trade itself but the extension...Cohen probably overpaid him by $100m based on what Correa, Seager, Semien, and Baez got and Turner, XB, Dansby, and Correa will get.  If you can outbid everyone in the offseason, why get bullied into a very player-favorable extension in spring training?
Chad Young
10:14
He got like $16MM more than Seager, right? And I have no issue with that. Plus, Lindor wanted to sign, so if you wait until the off-season, there is a very good chance he is gone already. That wasn't an option they could plan on.
bosoxforlife
10:14
I remember Mel harder
AvatarDavid Laurila
10:14
You are older than most, for certain.
Ben Clemens
10:15
I love using the Javy Baez contract to say Lindor got paid too much
What is going on here?
Farhandrew Zaidman
10:16
Is Trayce Thompson over Joey Gallo more of an endorsement in Thompson or an indictment on Gallo?
Ben Clemens
10:16
Endorsement of Thompson to me. He's been great this year and the underlying numbers make it look more real than not.
Chad Young
10:16
It's not that complicated - the alternative to that trade was likely not signing Lindor in the off-season. It was never having Lindor and getting into a bidding war with Texas and whoever else for SEager.
AvatarDavid Laurila
10:17
Looking back at this afternoon, the Phillies hanging on to beat Atlanta was big. They have a legit shot to win that series.
Ben Clemens
10:17
Huge for them
10:18
They have a legit shot to sweep the series now
Winning a game before Wheeler and Nola go, it doesn't get better than that for them
10:20
Karinkchak has changed his pre-pitch routine around a bit. I say this more to let you all know how much I watched it than because it's useful analysis
AvatarDavid Laurila
10:20
For those of you who care about such things, Karinchak was reportedly the only Guardians player unable to travel to Toronto in August.
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