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Ben Clemens
8:31
Not that he can't be an All Star.
8:32
Just that the framing stings, and teams pay for that.
Savi
8:33
How hot should Preller's seat be? The Hosmer deal was dreadful the moment it was offered, Myers is a boat anchor and the prospects (besides Tatis/Paddack) haven't shown a ton. If I were ownership I'd be dumping him in we don't see major progress from Urias, Mejia, Margot. Can't suck forever.
Ben Clemens
8:33
Lol at Urias with the lowest-possible-effort pickoff throw.
He has potentially the best move in baseball.
And he's showing that nonsense instead.
Josh Herzenberg
8:33
They have 7 players in the top 102 on THE BOARD and Tatis and Paddack are both stars. I don't agree with the premise that the prospects haven't shown a ton. I think the opposite, actually
Ben Clemens
8:34
I'd add, re: Padres, that they seem like a team with semi-meddling ownership who might have been involved on Hosmer, and they've also made some very weird statements about the way they value team-building/cash outlays/etc. when releasing their books last year.
Belli Flop
8:35
Urías' move is essentially a pseudo-balk
Ben Clemens
8:35
I agree with this other than "pseudo"
It's a balk that umpires have all agreed not to call.
Which is why it's so nasty. I think you should legitimately never try to steal on him.
Belli Flop
8:36
What even is a balk?  Like I've been a fan for years and still have no idea
Ben Clemens
8:36
Legit no idea. Other than that Urias's pickoff move is one.
Savi
8:36
I should have said "haven't shown a ton in the big leagues"
Ben Clemens
8:36
Umpires call that 45 degree angle thing consistently except for with Urias.
Adam2
8:37
Isn’t it what the Rays do when players ask for money?
Ben Clemens
8:37
Adam2 has jokes tonight. Step your game up, Adam1.
Josh Herzenberg
8:37
re: Padres... I understand, but the *oldest* player in that list of 7 in the top 102 is 22 years old, and Tatis/Paddack being what they are is 99th percentile success based on what they cost the club
Ben Clemens
8:38
In Play, Worried Dodgers Fan(s)
Look, I don't have a dog in this fight (and another FanGraphs editorial position is no dogfighting, we're not awful people), but you can't help but enjoy this Zimmerman story.
8:39
Also excellent gratuitous analytics bashing by Francoeur there
Josh Herzenberg
8:39
No dogfighting, just dogbribing
Ben Clemens
8:39
Yeah you guys think I got hired at FanGraphs because of my incisive analytical mind, but it's actually because I was getting a puppy.
Josh Herzenberg
8:39
Yeah, the assumption that "Zimmerman hit a home run, therefore analytics are bad!" is, well, interesting
Ben Clemens
8:40
Well if you listen to the on-field mic, Zimmerman was screaming "Analytics I banish you with this home run!" as he swung
Belli Flop
8:40
Pedro Báez, everyone!
Josh Herzenberg
8:40
Ah, I need to turn up the volume. I'll rewind
Ben Clemens
8:40
It's always a mixed feeling when Baez is bad.
8:41
Because I mean, I hate his slowness.
But when he's slow and bad, that means more Baez!
Báez Flop
8:42
Changed name to what just happened
Ben Clemens
8:42
Was it even that bad of a pitch? I mean, Zimmerman absolutely pulverized it.
But like, location wasn't the end of the world. Zimmerman was just on it.
Adam2
8:44
I would have thought throwing hard high fastballs to old players is good
Ben Clemens
8:44
Zimmerman is not the guy to challenge high. He has one of those prototypical flat swings, fly balls off of high pitches grounders off of low ones.
Frenchy
8:45
I’ll bet all those nerds in the front office told him not to swing at that
Adam2
8:45
Then it was a bad location! Make up your mind!
Ben Clemens
8:45
Fair counterpoint. I guess I should have hedged.
I don't think it was a bad location, per se.
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