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Notre Dame Hoops Chat - April

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Thomas Noie

1:53

That should do it for this month. Solid pandemic effort. Let's do it again in May (late May). If you have a question or comment that cannot wait, drop me a note at tnoie@sbtinfo.com. Thanks to all. And stay healthy!

1:46

This one's for Bill, out of sequence, so I apologize. Don't get hung up on less buy games. I've heard it's not as radical as it may seem. There are a couple non-league holes left on the schedule, but those would be home games.

1:44

Paul: Not likely. He could've wedged his way into the two-round, 60-draft selection process with a good showing at Portsmouth and then again at combine in Chicago in June. He's a four-year college guy, and NBA types tend to look at that and say, there's something about that....they draft more on potential than production

Bill

1:44

Brey mentioned more home and homes and less buy games as a result of some budget changes because of the virus - what kind of opponents would fit that bill?

Paul R

1:40

Do you see Mooney getting drafted late 2nd round or undrafted with multiple summer (or whenever it happens this year) league invites?

Thomas Noie

1:40

Don: Can we get a tourney in Cabo? No, really. None on the horizon, in part because our travel budget has fallen victim to the newspaper industry as a whole. Was looking forward to the football game at Lambeau Field (Packers season tickets have been in my family for 60 years)....but don't know if that's going to happen. And I LOVE yard work....all of it!

Don - Cabo San Lucas

1:38

Yep, go with #3 if you wish to have a happy marriage. Me, nothing I hated more than yard work. You had a nice article recently regarding arenas and your bucket list. Any games on the horizon you are lucking forward to for that reason?

Thomas Noie

1:38

Joe from the South Side becomes Joe from Europe....stay healthy my man!

joe from the south side

1:38

OK.. Stay safe and please let's go at it again in May. I am down to a few more of these for the time being (we aremoving to Europe God willing). I really look forward to these. All the Best! My backyard beckons.

Thomas Noie

1:33

Going No. 3 every time....can't wait to cut mine....you get to be outside, get a little workout (mine takes a little over an hour). Yeah, cutting grass, big fan!

joe from the south side

1:32

Tom: My wife wants me to cut the grass. Should I: 1. Complain of a bad back, 2. Tell her I am saying a decade of the rosary for ND BBL, or 3. Just bite the bullet and make an afternoon of it?

Thomas Noie

1:27

Nope....Marquette still a better job. I get it, but it just is. Every kid wants to play in the NBA. You play in a state-of-the-art NBA arena. You play your league tournament in the Garden. You have an urban campus. You're not the "other" sport on campus. Play Duke and Carolina in the NCAA tournament.

joe from the south side

1:24

Tom: ND is a better job because of the league. The BE does not have CBB royalty like Duke and Carolina. You have (at least for now) a third HOF Coach at the 'Cuse. Louisville and Virginia are now in the national title conversation almost annually. Leonard Hamilton is doing a great job at FSU. No league can boast like that. As much as I like the BE, city Catholic schools are always going to be driven by the head coach, not national prominence, only NOVA maybe. Do you really think CREI,DEP and XAV are career defining jobs? Look, I love those schools and root for them thru and thru, but if, IF IF you want to play against the best and beat the best....it's ACC BBL. Look at the NBA draft in 2019. Brey could make more money in the studio. He's giving Swarbrick and Jenkins a HUGE loyalty discount.

Thomas Noie

1:23

Biggest surprise has to be Luke Harangody. Nobody saw that coming from him. Like, the second scorer/rebounder in school history from some region Rat. Disappointment? Wouldn't classify this guy as a disappointment, but it was disappointing that we were just starting to see the best of Demetrius Jackson, and how many tools he had in the tool box when it was over for him and he was off to the NBA. We could've used another year of all that, right?

joe from the south side

1:20

Tom: Over all the years, recruit who was the biggest disappointment as a 3 or 4 year guy (no Cam Biedscheid), and biggest surprise. Like, "Damn he got game!"

Thomas Noie

1:20

In that case, Marquette still a better job.

Coach from Reading, PA

1:19

Hi Tom. The salary determines how good the job is when comparing ND vs Marquette

Thomas Noie

1:05

Joe: I'll duck before I say this.....no, I won't. Is Notre Dame a better job than Marquette? Look at all factors....facilities, arena, league, only big sport on campus, urban setting, who you can recruit....I'm thinking Marquette's a better job. It just is.

joe from the south side

1:03

Tom: I said this before and you kind of pooh-poohed the idea. Watch out for Wojo. Brey thinks very very highly of him and he recruited Wojo to Duke.

Thomas Noie

1:03

Raft gets you in everywhere....

joe from the south side

1:03

Tom: I would take Louie. He could get you in to Rao's.

Thomas Noie

12:52

Paul: Jack Swarbrick may have tipped his hand Wednesday during the Muffet McGraw retirement press conference when he talked about how important continuity was in the transfer of head coaching power. My first thought? Will he feel that way (will he still be AD) when it's time for Brey to walk away. If he is, Ingelsby = continuity, right?

Paul R

12:51

If Brey does stay till the end of his contract, would Ingelsby be one of the front runners to take over assuming he's done alright at Delaware?

Thomas Noie

12:51

Joe: Bill Raftery, because it would be dinner, desert, drinks, late-night snack somewhere and maybe even breakfast before he was ready to call it a night. He's the best.

joe from the south side

12:50

Tom: Old Big East question. You could have dinner with Raff or Louie. Which one?

Thomas Noie

12:50

Joe: Couldn't agree more. Gibbs and I had our give and take and back and forth moments. Some warranted, some not. But one reason I was a little tougher on him than most is that I saw what other guards did during their careers. They got better. They expanded their games. Gibbs was .....just kind of there. He played a lot of minutes and made some shots now and then, but did he ever really get better? Did he become elite? Most telling was this past year, when he didn't receive a single league post-season recognition. Not even honorable mention. That said a lot about how others viewed his game, not just the mean guy from the SBT.

joe from the south side

12:48

Tom: I'll lay off the graduated seniors going forward, but have you ever seen a more nondescript four year career (for a high end recruit) than Gibbs? He never elevated his game, never really had a defining moment (beating BC at the buzzer does not cut it for me), never showed any hop or bounce to his game. Had a nice perimeter game, could handle but with no aggressiveness, but what really stood out? In my mind, his four years........Meh. Also, keep in mind for all of Brey's recruiting (such as it is), he only recruited Gibbs of the three. Rex was a back end replacement for Coleman-Lands (in the transfer portal BTW) and Mooney was handed to him by Billy Donovan.

Thomas Noie

12:47

Bill: Amen, same goes for Georgia Tech....but you take those two out, you have, have, have to add Lousiville. Think I'd go Louisville and Syracuse as permanent rivals instead of Georgia Tech and Boston College, though those two have been guaranteed wins the last few years.

Bill

12:46

To continue with the ACC/BE comparisons...I have loved the ACC move and the marquee matchups, but this past year was the first time I felt ND basketball fit better with the new Big East. As you mentioned, Louisville became a rival in the latter days of the Big East and they have always had Marquette and DePaul, but games with Creighton, Xavier, and Butler would easily evolve into great rivalries. What's missing most from the ACC agreement is that two-rivalry...BC doesn't exaclty make the cut

Thomas Noie

12:45

Boom! There you go. Good stuff, which is why I don't don't really get the push of getting him to play right away. Let him learn the game, this system, before jumping right in. Patience.....

joe from the south side

12:44

Tom: Quick take on Wertz. More of a penetrator and driver than Hubb. Better shooter, improving shooter. Not sure handed enough to be a 1. Needs to cut down on TOs with better decision making. Can find a shot for himself late in the shot clock. Played against some guys who looked like they should have worked the undercard for Vince McMahon as heels. He needs to sit a year to acclimate to the level of ACC competition. Best way to do that is practice against D1 talent.

Thomas Noie

12:44

Joe: Ha! Would've liked to have been involved in those late nights in Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla., during those spring meetings. Let's just say there were a lot of late nights and early mornings and groggy head coaches. There were a lot of guys at that time who would've been fun to hang with and listen to their stories. Including Mike Brey.

joe from the south side

12:43

Tom: In a recent podcast, Brey alluded to some late night shenanigans at the hotel bar when the BE had their annual meeting. Most notably, Huggins and Jay Wright were in the conversation. Anything you can add?

Thomas Noie

12:43

Jake: Whoaaaaa....easy there my man.... Look at it from this end - starting the season with a fifth-year senior as the sixth man or someone who's missed basically two years with season-ending injuries who's played in exactly one ACC game. The projection of Djogo as the sixth man is to START the season. That may change by Christmas. You think Carmody's better. What gives you that belief? He's got the potential to be better, and to be the sixth man, but man, let's make sure he gets healthy and stays healthy. Then build out his minutes and his role from there.

Jake

12:41

So djogo goes from the oddly used (59 ACC minutes iirc) 9th turned 8th man to 6th man and getting starter minutes? Can’t say I agree, I think Carmody is better. I’ll trust Brey though, but I don’t understand.

Thomas Noie

12:41

Yes, with the caveat that there will have to be nights when the points have to be around 12-15 and rebounds 8-10. He has to be more consistent game-in and game-out in his last season.

joe from the south side

12:40

Tom: Projected stat line for Durham.....20-25 mpg, 8-10 ppg, 5-6 rpg, 2.5 blocks. Is that about right and if you are Brey is that enough?

Thomas Noie

12:40

Dennis: Three words. North Dakota State. Two more words: Ball State. Here's the current scheduling philosophy of this staff - not saying it's right, not saying it's wrong, just what they believe is best. There's plenty of potential power numbers and games and chances within the league where you don't have to go out on a limb from a non-league standpoint. Some years, when you have a veteran team that can be challenged, Notre Dame might stretch it a bit in the non-league. But take last year - coming off 14-19, this team needed confidence. It needed to win. Thus, the non-league was weak, believing that the numbers would improve in league play. They didn't, because the league was so down. Scheduling like that is manageable, so as long as you get a few of those power wins in league play. When you get none of them, like last year, it magnifies the weak non-league. I don't see that changing all that much.

Dennis

12:36

Tom why does Brey continue to schedule ample games against teams ranked 300+ each year? It kills our power rating and hurts our tournament chances when we are on the bubble. Even when we are clearly in the field it hurts our seed. Instead of playing teams ranked 300+ how about playing teams ranked #125-#225? There are plenty of poor teams that will not demand a home and home and also not kill our team ranking.

Thomas Noie

12:36

Zero....almost as much chance as Notre Dame winning a national championship in football...whoops...did I say that?

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