JotCast | PHR Live Chat: Deadline Day!

PHR Live Chat: Deadline Day!

Josh Erickson

7:04

Good morning, party people!

7:05

Sorry I haven't been able to get to these regularly. I've had some schedule changes that have made finding a new weekly time prohibitive, but it's something I'm looking to get back to as soon as possible. For now, though, everyone has the floor to discuss/ask about a crazy late-night rush yesterday plus what may still be ahead today.

Puckhead

7:07

Do you think there’s any chance the Bruins can get Thomas without giving up Hagens?

Josh Erickson

7:09

No. Quantity wasn't the issue with the Sabres' offer; it was the lack of a young player who could step in immediately (or feasibly be an impact player next season) on the Blues' NHL roster. Boston doesn't have anyone with a reasonably high ceiling that fits that category (sorry, I just don't think Fraser Minten fits the Blues' ask of a prospect/young NHLer equivalent to a first-round pick). Hagens will presumably be in the NHL next season thanks to his standout sophomore year, so he's a must-have for St. Louis in this deal. Remember, they're perfectly happy to hold on to Thomas and re-examine this in the summer.

Don W

7:09

Are the Jackets done after the Garland deal?

Josh Erickson

7:12

They don't have to be, but I wouldn't necessarily bet on anything. Normally, I would say they could use another left-shot defenseman. I haven't loved Egor Zamula. But the math doesn't favor them ahead of the Islanders or Bruins in the playoff race (although Columbus would be a lock at this point if they were in the West!). I don't think any long-term options make sense for them, with Mateychuk still needing room to grow, and I don't think they're at a point where they should be trading for rentals, so Garland might be it.

HockeyBoz

7:12

can you please tell what in world Yzerman was thinking when he traded for Perron ?

Josh Erickson

7:15

I really don't get the backlash. A third-line winger was an absolute necessity for them. Perron was one of the cheapest candidates available – heck, the pick doesn't even transfer if he doesn't play. He was producing at a solid rate before his sports hernia surgery, and it's a familiar environment for him. Cap space wasn't a problem for them, so it's not like he's prohibiting them from acquiring anybody else.

Black Ace57

7:15

Do you think with the trade difficulties and criticism this deadline after removing the double retention ability for teams they might consider changing it back in the future?

Josh Erickson

7:17

No. That was one of the factors the league pushed hardest for in this round of CBA negotiations. Bill Daly made it clear in no uncertain terms that if the league had its way, salary retention wouldn't exist at all, but was given as a "concession" to the players in the 2012 lockout.

VanCity

7:17

What will be the biggest trade tioday?

Josh Erickson

7:18

Trocheck or Kadri. I think it's about 25% neither gets moved, 50% both get moved, and 25% only one gets moved. A Thomas deal is simply too large and too complicated to come together last-minute, I think, so I'm expecting him to stay in St. Louis – for now.

Vahey

7:18

If the Blues don’t make any trades today is it a failure?

Josh Erickson

7:20

Oh my goodness, can't tell the difference between Bruins and Blues today. Let me try that again.

7:22

Failure is a really strong characterization, but it wouldn't be ideal. All of the assets they're considering moving have some sort of term left on their deals, so they're movable over the summer as well. The one player I think they'd be hurt by not moving today is Justin Faulk. He's having a great year, but he only has one season left on his contract, so there's a big spike in his return potential by moving him now, with the acquiring team getting two cracks at a playoff run with him. Binnington's value... I don't see changing much between now and June.

WingsWorld

7:23

Do you think the Wings make a major move today? Thomas, Trocheck, etc? They have the young pieces and the picks to make some noise - just wondering about the willingness

Josh Erickson

7:24

Nothing about Yzerman's tenure indicates to me he's willing to part with the assets required to make that happen. I do think he'll make a significant move – likely a top-four left-shot defenseman, I wonder about Oliver Ekman-Larsson as a fit with Axel Sandin-Pellikka – but not in the Thomas blockbuster realm.

I know they're sniffing around those guys. But there's a reason they haven't been moved yet. The prices are sky-high. St. Louis won't come down on Thomas, and I think the field is too crowded on Trocheck for them to be really serious for him.

Chris Haddad

7:25

Are the Avs done? Will Colton still be on the team when the puck drops tonight vs Dallas?

Josh Erickson

7:27

I'm going to say no to the first question, yes to the second one. The Roy acquisition took them out on Kadri. It also left them with a bunch more cap space than they'd otherwise have had (they've still got nearly $7MM available). With Lehkonen, Kiviranta, and O'Connor all out right now they're looking thin on the wings. Since they've already had discussions with the Flames, I wonder if they pivot to Blake Coleman. I wonder about Bobby McMann. But they don't need to ship Colton out to make the salary work for either of those guys.

Big sauce

7:27

The Sharks cannot be done? Moving Jack Thompson does not count...

Josh Erickson

7:30

No, it doesn't, especially when they didn't get anything of value back! They can't be done, and they aren't. They made something of a push for Conor Garland, but I can't imagine the Canucks were psyched about the idea of moving him within the division. They will continue sniffing for more affordable forward help. They will continue examining what they can do about retooling their blue line. Even if there isn't an upgrade to be had out there, I can't see them holding onto all four pending UFAs (Klingberg, Ferraro, Liljegren, Desharnais).

Eric

7:31

Other than Trocheck what other moves will the Rangers make?

Josh Erickson

7:32

I'm not really sure. I'm less inclined to believe now that Braden Schneider moves. He just seems like a guy you keep through a retool like this, but I understand the wish to dangle him if he'll get you real value back. Few other movable players on that roster will. To that end, I don't see a market for any of their pending UFAs (Brodzinski, Sheary, Quick) and don't think they'll be traded today.

JohnnyZ

7:32

Bruin's give LeTornado, Portios. Toronto's 1st, and Lorhrei for Thomas!

Josh Erickson

7:33

That's not close to enough, sorry. The Blues want three to four first-round equivalent assets. You only have two of them there, and neither of them will be NHL impact pieces this calendar year (except for maybe that Toronto 1st rounder, but the Leafs might get to keep it anyway at this stage).

7:34

Swap Poitras for Hagens, and you have St. Louis seriously considering it.

Quack Job

7:34

A first round pick for a 36 year old rental seems like a steep price. Is the upcoming draft class weak, or is this just a reflection of the sellers market?

Josh Erickson

7:37

Meanwhile, I have a question later in the queue puzzled at how the Caps got so little for a player of Carlson's caliber, even if he is a rental. All depends on your perception. The market has been so wildly unpredictable (how did Nic Dowd fetch more than Conor Garland?). If you're considering rentals only, keep in mind Michael McCarron and Cole Smith, fourth-line forwards, got a 2nd and 3rd-rounder each for Nashville. With that in mind, I'm more inclined to agree with the latter commenter that Anaheim got a bit of a bargain here.

This first-round pick will be out of the top 15. The Ducks really won't miss it too much.

HockeyBoz

7:37

What are the chances of Red Wings landing Trocheck and/or Parayko?

Josh Erickson

7:38

Zero on Parayko. If he's waiving his no-trade clause, it won't be for an Eastern Conference team (ESPN's Kevin Weekes reported that yesterday, and we covered it). There's such a crowded field for Trocheck that I really can't call it more than 15-20%.

RealDealzz

7:39

What do you think the likelihood is of someone prying Jake Debrusk out of Vancouver? Seems like he'd be a good fit back in Boston.

Josh Erickson

7:40

Keep in mind, he has a no-movement clause. Those deals, especially with players with term left on their deals like DeBrusk, take more time to facilitate because they have to ask the player to waive. I think there would have been more noise around him in the last few days if he had been getting moved today. I'll say the likelihood of him going now is pretty low, but it could very well happen this summer.

Justin

7:40

Bruins buying or selling? I feel they should sell peeke and arvidsson, they aren't real contenders this yr imo

Josh Erickson

7:41

That's not in their plans. They might hold pat, but they're not selling. Don Sweeney made it clear this week he wants to reward his group for the season they've had.

Nitro1978

7:41

Was Columbus willingness/ability to take on the full contact the core reason they "won" the Garland sweepstakes?

Josh Erickson

7:42

I'm sure that's part of it. There's a reason PuckPedia uses an anchor symbol to represent no-movement clauses. While there's interest in the player, I'm sure that extension scared off a lot of teams. He certainly wouldn't get that in free agency this summer considering his platform season. I think CBJ was likely one of the only teams willing to put forth a pair of picks in the top three rounds as a result.

Vahey

7:43

How many first round picks get moved today?

Josh Erickson

7:43

One already came off the board for Carlson. I'll say four more.

Randy

7:43

Will the Carolina hurricanes be active or make a big move

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