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Ed O
2:28
Tork hits the ball hard, showed some pop in second half.  What are off-season plans, if any, to take the next step or is a 230-240 BA, 300-320 OBP the expected going forward?
Anthony Franco
2:30
I think something in the .240/.325 range is probably the expectation. He's had some swing-and-miss concerns dating back to college. Just don't think he has great pure contact skills, so the strikeouts will always be pretty high
So long as he's hitting for the kind of power he has in the second half -- which feels attainable -- he's still a good player
Champdo
2:31
of Olson, Wentz, and Gibson-long who do you think has the best major league career
Anthony Franco
2:31
Olson
Houzer
2:31
Doesnt Jung Hoo Lee seem like kinda a perfect gamble?
Anthony Franco
2:33
Yeah I could see that. Teams typically have wide valuations on the KBO/NPB guys. There's no MLB track record, so it's largely about trusting your scouts on whether they think the bat will translate
But he's young and has a chance to play CF, so if the Tigers think he'll be able to hold up offensively, it makes sense to be in on him
Toby
2:33
Any thoughts on new GM Jeff Goldberg.  Coming from hockey scares me
Anthony Franco
2:34
He only spent a year in the NHL, had something like 11 years with the Cubs before that
Jason
2:34
When does the front office start signing some young players long term?
Anthony Franco
2:37
Aside from Skubal -- who might want to hold off for a full year of health before he considers it -- I don't think this is the right time. Still have some defensive/injury questions with Greene. Best to let things play out with Mize and Manning given their health histories
2:38
They already control Carpenter and Tork for a while, and the defensively-limited slugger isn't usually the kind of guy teams are anxious to extend super early in their careers. Pre-arb extensions for first basemen or DHs almost never happen
Bo
2:39
Do you think the tigers become a bigger spender again even without Mr. I? I wouldn’t assume as much as they did in the early 2010’s, but the tigers have a good enough market to do that
Anthony Franco
2:40
I doubt we're talking about them as a top 3-5 spending team again, but I expect they'll run above-average (maybe back half of the top 10) figures within the next couple seasons. Chris Ilitch hasn't shown that yet but the team has never been in a good enough position to inspire him to do so really
kurt the hurt
2:40
Skubal, Manning, Mize, Olson , Gipson-Long & wentz seems like good rotation without paying more for E Rod ?
Anthony Franco
2:41
There's upside but Wentz isn't a great contingency plan once injuries/innings questions inevitably hit
Joe
2:42
Other than Josh Hader, who are some veteran Bullpen options to potentially close out games for the Tigers in 24, because Alex Lang has been shaky for 4 months in a row. And if the Tigers want to seriously compete for the Division in 24, I think they need to solidify the closer role.
Anthony Franco
2:42
I don't really agree that they should be targeting a veteran closer at this point -- that'd be more of a finishing roster piece for me -- but Craig Kimbrel and David Robertson are out there
Guest
2:43
Would it make sense to buy low and trade for Yoan Moncada? Still obviously young, and have to believe he’s better than he’s performed.
Anthony Franco
2:44
I have a hard time seeing any appeal there at this point. If the White Sox paid the contract down to a couple million, maybe, but that doesn't benefit Chicago much at that point
Destro
2:44
Is there real value in using utility players all over the diamond when their bat and glove are not good enough to stay at a specific position?
Anthony Franco
2:45
Having multi-position flexibility helps obviously, but it has diminishing returns when the entire MLB infield is just that kind of player
Avila / Harris evauation?
2:45
what are your thoughts on the Avila regime looking back (i.e. was he set up to fail, did he not do enough, what could he have done better, etc.) and what are your thoughts on Harris one year in?
Anthony Franco
2:47
I talked about Avila's tenure in an earlier question about the length of the rebuild, so I won't rehash that
2:48
TBD on Harris but year one was mixed. Jiménez trade was good. I didn't like the Soto return package really but think they were right to move him when they did. Lorenzen and Boyd rolls of the dice in FA were fine
2:50
I don't know how much blame goes around for the E-Rod deal falling through, but that the Tigers couldn't line up a contingency trade to one of the 19 teams not on his no-trade list isn't great. Getting one hit-first second base prospect for Lorenzen was an atypical trade return, though I don't know enough about the player to have an opinion on their evaluation
Bo
2:51
Why do you think Harris has traded with Dombrowski/Phillies on several occasions? Is it Dombrowski connections to Detroit, or is Harris just lining up with what the Phillies need?
Anthony Franco
2:51
Dombrowski having a background with Soto probably helped. The Lorenzen deal felt more about need
2:52
Philly wanted a back-end starter who could kick to the bullpen if all six of their starters were healthy. Lorenzen fit the bill
kurt the hurt
2:53
If you take the 18 million spent on Boyd and Lorenzen and spend it on one better starting pitcher you might have been better off ?
Anthony Franco
2:54
The bigger selling point is that they were one-year commitments, which Detroit wasn't getting from anyone clearly better
2:55
The other free agent starters who signed one-year contracts worth $10MM+: Kershaw, Syndergaard, Clevinger, Kluber, Kyle Gibson
2:56
Lorenzen turned out to be a better investment than all of them
Aside from Kershaw (who obviously wasn't going to Detroit)
Houzer
2:57
If we really were able to move Baez, who in the heck would play SS?
Anthony Franco
2:58
That's the problem right? Are you any better off if you dump 85% of Baez's money somewhere else to sign Isiah Kiner-Falefa or Nick Ahmed?
Sorry, dump 15% of Baez's money while retaining 85%
If you could dump 85% of the Baez money, you do it in a heartbeat haha
Mise fan
2:59
What are your thoughts on a Casey Mize big impact in 24?
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