JotCast | Trade Value Series Chat - 7/29/22

Trade Value Series Chat - 7/29/22

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Ben Clemens

11:59

Hey everyone, welcome to a very special, once-a-year chat to celebrate the trade value series.

We'll be back to our regularly scheduled chat schedule.... well, probably the week after next, what with Monday being the trade deadline and all

12:00

But for today, I'm going to strive to take only questions about the trade value series. Constructing it, why is x guy in y spot, anything of that nature.

If you have trade deadline questions, I will probably not get to them, my bad

Pat

12:00

Where would Trout have ended up with the news on his back condition this week?

Ben Clemens

12:01

Probably the same spot he was. He was already on the IL as I compiled the list, and the range from, say, 35-60 is just not that high

So I made a point of keeping Trout in the top 50

He's Mike Trout!

Marshall

12:02

I’m surprised Lux didn’t make the list since he was an HM last year (“team control but value is down”), and I would have thought his value is way up due to his play this year. What kept Lux off the list?

Ben Clemens

12:03

He probably should have made honorable mention, but I just want to see a little bit more. If he's playing like this still next year he'll probably be on there. It's a little bit of a 'he should be squarely in the best 70 players' deal in my head

Mitch Meluskey

12:03

The projected WAR for Acuna seems awfully low - is that mostly playing time adjusted because of the injuries the last two years? I know the models are meant to be conservative but compared to his peers it's tough to figure unless you're assuming 120 or so games played the next few years.

Ben Clemens

12:03

You'd have to ask Dan that, but I believe so

TKDC

12:04

What do you think of Paul Goldschmidt and Freddie Freeman’s trade value? They are two top players in the league and don’t have the backend contracts of first baseman of yore.

Ben Clemens

12:04

Yeah, I could have thrown them on the 'stars on big contracts' section, and I had both on there at various points

12:05

I ended up taking them off just b/c when there are 50 honorable mentions the category seems less meaningful

TKDC

12:06

Exactly how much egg is going to be on your face for leaving Michael Harris II off this list? One dozen eggs or two dozen eggs?

Ben Clemens

12:06

Honestly, zero eggs

I don't think people would feel differently if I put him 45th or something

as a subjective list of who I think are good baseball players, I feel pretty fine about it.

Malcolm Nunez

12:07

More of a comment than anything, but Jeff Jones is reporting that the Cardinals baseball ops team *and* Bill DeWitt Junior are in DC for the series. Oh, and look, Soto is on this list. How topical.

Ben Clemens

12:08

Okay fine, one trade deadline question, b/c it's about someone on here. I LOVE that the whole FO went to Washington

seems like there is smoke enough that maybe there's fire

Thomas

12:08

Is this the first time somebody in the Top 10 of the trade value rankings actually had a reasonable expectation of being traded at the deadline? Feels unprecedented in the time I've been following the series

Ben Clemens

12:08

First time

Braydon

12:08

Is this the riskiest top 5 in a while? It seems like all of the Top 5 is either: 1) really young, 2) coming off a fairly major injury, or 3) both

Ben Clemens

12:08

Well, Yordan is the one exception there, though even he had a major injury two years ago

But yes, definitely

12:09

I've only done this one time before but I always followed along in the past, naturally

and I can't remember a time where the volatility was so high on top

Jax

12:09

Would J-Rod be number one on this list had he not been called up until they could've picked up an extra year of service time?

Ben Clemens

12:10

Hard to say! He was pretty bad his first month up

so what performance would we have seen? I dunno

David

12:10

#1 on Next year's list is _____? I'd assume Franco Julio and Tatis are early favorites.

Ben Clemens

12:10

For sure

Junk Wax Rookie Card

12:10

Where would top 10 prospects who aren't in the majors fit here? Any consideration for putting somebody like Moreno or Alvarez on this list?

Ben Clemens

12:11

Yeah, they could easily be at the back end of the top 50, I think those players are pretty interchangeable with some of the guys I had there. The reason I left them off is that I just don't have a good sense of which prospects teams think of that way, and which are overrated on the public side

I have so little info there, basically, that I decided to sit it out

Blake Seams

12:11

Is a career 106 wRC+ (90 this year) and good, but not great, defense at second really worth the 16th spot on the list for Ozzie Albies? Or is he getting grandfathered in with his contract at this point?

TKDC

12:11

Where would Albies have landed if he were healthy and having a similar year to last year?

Ben Clemens

12:12

Two different sides of the same coin here

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