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Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat - 11/27/23

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Ben Clemens

2:42

it's not like this ploy started last week

It's been a long-term frustration, and frustrating enough taht team leaders like Cal Raleigh are talking about it

Travis

2:42

How come baseball players don't hold out? I feel like if this was the NFL or NBA, Acuna would've just held out for more money by now. Much more money. And if he didn't get it, demanded a trade

Ben Clemens

2:42

I really don't know, to be honest

Guest

2:43

Thinking about realistic Orioles' offseason moves, would something like E-Rod for 4/100 (first off realistic contract?), be enough for solid contention, or would an addition move like Cowser/Ortiz for Cease need to be done as well? (envisioning something like Bradish/Cease/Erod/GrayRod/Means/Kremer

Ben Clemens

2:43

I think that E Rod deal is reasonable if he's interested in playing in Baltimore, and I think he is, he seems to mainly want to avoid the west coast

I do think it'd be enough for solid contention. They won the East this year and I think they do a great job of building redundancy that makes them play up over a long season, no embarrassingly bad plate apperances or batters facded

or at least, fewer

2:44

I'm just a lot lower on Cease than I think others are, and it sounds like the White Sox want a lot for him

that said I also think the O's should be trying to consolidate talent into the 26-man roster right now

I'd prefer Burnes, though, basically

Gimme an Ace

2:44

Pessimistic on O's moves, would a single addition like Stroman push the needle at all for the Orioles? Bradish/Stroman/Gray-Rod/Means/Kremer

Ben Clemens

2:45

Same deal, I think that'd be good for htem, and maybe they then try to add a starter at the deadline if GrayRod isn't pitching like an ace?

2:45

Given all the predictions of Ohtani getting somewhere around $500 mil, what is the consensus on what he'd get if healthy?

Ben Clemens

2:45

More, or the same over less years? I struggled mightily to come up with an Ohtani contract estimate because it's past 'no comps' and into 'no one has been like this'

Marlins man 2

2:45

Doesn’t Cease and Robert make a lot of sense for us? Sandy gone for year and losing Soler. Also, have a lot of pitching prospects.

Ben Clemens

2:46

Sure, I guess? I don't think the Marlins have enough juice to trade for both, though

2:47

Robert just put up a 5 win season and just turned 26, plus he's under team control through 2027

TomBruno23

2:47

Still on pins and needles awaiting word on the Paul DeJong contract details...MLB Deal for a guy who was DFA'd twice down the stretch in 2023?

Ben Clemens

2:47

I'm very surprised too

Bresbian

2:47

For a team with as many clear needs and as much money as the Red Sox, their rumour mill is strangely quiet. What's your best guess on how they allocate resources?

Ben Clemens

2:47

I think they're figuring out if Ohtani is interested, and then going to go hard at some pitchers if not

2:48

I think they can afford to take a longer view and not try to fix the whole team this winter, go pitching this year and hitting next

KC Pain

2:48

Behind the scenes does ERod's nixing of the trade then saying he will play anywhere make a difference to a front office? Tigers seemed to have supported him w his fam issues. I figured he would stay put, but then opting AND being open after the season.

Ben Clemens

2:48

I think west coast teams will be a little skeptical

2:49

honestly, though, what else is he supposed to say?

don't limit your own market, you know?

Depressed M's Fan

2:49

It's sad to watch the team who manufactured a competitive window by putting up $300 million for Robinson Cano and Nelson Cruz act like broke losers when they have their best young core in 20 years

Ben Clemens

2:49

I do not know many Mariners fans who are happy about it

Smiling Politely

2:50

NFL players hold out for guaranteed money (it's insane to me that the one sport that actually can kill you has nonguaranteed contracts on the regular); the NBAPA has a better union and the advantage of one star player being able to make or break an entire team's decade.

Ben Clemens

2:50

Yeah the NFL side makes total sense to me

and I think I can buy the NBA side? There are also fewer true holdouts tehre

it's more trade me or I'll be grumpy

Guest

2:51

When do you think we start hearing about expansion? The Tampa stadium situation (Seemingly) appears to be agreed too, and the A's situation seems to be progressing (though who knows). Would MLB wait until the new stadiums have been completed or would a groundbreaking be enough to start the process?

Ben Clemens

2:51

Oh yeah, I think a groundbreaking will be enough

And I also think that depending on how Bally stuff goes this offseason, the league might be in the market for a cash infusion sooner rather than later

Ken Blemens

2:51

Odds that the Phillies get either Yamamoto or Imanaga? In the event that they add another starting pitcher, how much will they have to pay a team to take Taijuan Walker? Seems like he could have some value to a team low on pitching depth.

Ben Clemens

2:52

I think Yamamoto is unlikely, Imanaga makes more sense

I think they'd probably dislike what they could get for Walker so much that they'll just keep him as depth

like, the Phillies are a team low on pitching depth, because every team is

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