JotCast | Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat - 8/3/20

Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat - 8/3/20

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Ben Clemens

2:10

If all three of your teams had Shane Bieber he'd be awful instead of great

Sorry, pal

Your Name

2:10

I'm probably one of the more irrational Mets defenders lurking around here, but man, that Ces announcement yesterday was kind of mess. I wish they could handle some of these things a skosh better- even if Ces definitely seems to share plenty of blame. All that said, Smith and Davis are hitting better than projected, so Mets are maybe better off without Ces baggage?

Ben Clemens

2:10

They reallllllly did not handle that well

The actual on-field value of Cespedes was kinda medium either way all along

But holy crap the team did a poor job of that

2:11

Not doing a lot to rise above the narrative

In fact it's kind of a continuation of form

The Mets aren't a poorly constructed team overall

They're weird and they don't put enough value on defense I don't think, but they have good players

But they just handle everything around the team poorly and do stuff like this

Cespedes wasn't exactly in the right, but the team just torching him for no reason?

2:12

Who other than the Mets and maybe the Marlins would release a statement like htat?

They did it to embarrass him but embarrassed themselves

Your Name

2:12

Saw lots of people on Twitter yesterday suggesting that the Mets Billy Hamilton trade proves they knew about Ces opting out ahead of time. Am I wrong in thinking the two are not really connected at all?

Ben Clemens

2:12

Oh totally agree, unrelated.

Sam

2:12

Setting aside the Cespedes stuff (peak #lolmets right there) how disappointing has this season been for the Mets?

Why Am I A Mets Fan?

2:12

Reason for optimism re: Mets pitching? deGrom excluded

Ben Clemens

2:12

I think it's been fine so far.

Wacha was good once bad once

DG is aweosme

2:13

Porcello.... okay not great

Six walks is too many walks

2:14

The bottom line is that they're 3-7 and that is tough in a short year

But if they can finish the season .500 I think I like their chances pretty well in a three-game series

DG as one of your starters is just huge

guy incognito

2:14

i... don't hate the runner on 2nd in extras rule? i hope they don't keep it, but i'm way less of a cranky old man about it than when they announced it

Kiermaier's Piercing Green Eyes

2:14

The extra innings rule is awful and ties would be hugely preferable. The small ball is horrendously ugly and the one-lucky-hit walkoffs are so unsatisfying. There's no building an inning, so I don't get the "it's exciting!" argument. Ties would have been better.

Ben Clemens

2:14

Fun!

I'm more on guy incognito's side

I've been disappointed by how bad teams are at small ball

To the point where they often won't try it even if it makes sense

2:15

But eitehr way I don't think it's much of a change at all

I hope they don't keep it

But it hasn't felt disruptive to me at all

Marko from Tropoja

2:15

How great did Kershaw look? Average FB velo over 92 touching over 93, CU and SL were excellent and even a few 84 CHs. All seems right in the world.

Ben Clemens

2:15

Yes what a fun thing

Good Kershaw is one of my guilty pleasures

When I was not a writer but just an average Cards fan I hated when we played Kershaw

But secretly I liked watching him pitch

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