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Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat - 12/15/22

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Dan Szymborski

12:25

(iii) Cash Consideration: An assignor Club that pays cash consideration to defray all or part of the salary obligation of the assignee Club for an assigned Player or Players shall include such cash consideration in its Actual Club Payroll on a pro-rata basis over the remaining Guaranteed Years of the assigned Contract(s). Cash consideration that is conditionally payable based on the Player’s earning of performance or award bonuses will be included in the Actual Club Payroll of the Club responsible for paying the bonus in the Contract Year in which the bonus is earned. Cash consideration that is conditionally payable based on the outcome of Club or Player Option decisions will be included in the pro-rata calculation described above if the consideration is contingent on the decline of a Club Option Year or the exercise of a Player Option Year, but will not be included if contingent on the exercise of a Club Option Year or the decline of a Player Option Year. If any cash consideration not originally included in

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12:26

It would simply too easy to launder CBT payroll otherwise

Jays ZiPS

12:28

I was surprised to see Hayden Juenger get a Goose Gossage comp in your Blue Jays ZiPS piece. Besides being young for the level, nothing in Juenger's profile really jumps out at me. Without giving too much of ZiPS away, what kind of inputs could lead to such a lofty comp?

Dan Szymborski

12:28

Lemme see

(I will answer other questions in thne mean time)

Nate

12:29

Think something centered around Garcia and one of Korey Lee/Yainer Diaz might be close enough for the Astros to land Varsho from AZ? Or maybe Jansen from Toronto?

Dan Szymborski

12:29

Ah, so they weren't one of my foes!

Honestly, I don't think they're shopping Varsho

12:30

And I don't think that package woudl be enough

Dave

12:30

Brad Boxberger can play SS and hit a 135 wrc+, right?

Dan Szymborski

12:31

Well, it would be ideal

TomBruno23

12:31

Making that impossible slider stuffing again for Xmas, going to make it over this year?

Dan Szymborski

12:31

I'll sadly have to bow out for a reason I'll have to make up for later to not hurt your feelings about impossible slider stuffing!

TomBruno23

12:31

What do the Cardinals do the rest of the off-season, and what should they do?

Dan Szymborski

12:31

I'm not positive, but I think it'll be low-key

12:32

Someone like Kluber would be a lot of fun

And of course Rodon in the sense that a contender getting the best pitcher available is usually a pretty sweet idea

robertobeers

12:32

What type of modifications are going into the next year's ZiPS contract tool based on this year's free agency?

Dan Szymborski

12:32

I'm not sure, I need to see how the whole winter turns out!

Sharp

12:32

If the Braves are unable to land Swanson how much confidence do you have in Vaughn Grissom/Orlando Arcia. Lots of Braves fans on social media that I've seen are talking themselves into Vaughn Grissom being the guy.

Dan Szymborski

12:33

I don't think Grissom is as good as Swanson right now, but I think he's pretty good

Arcia I have much less faith in

12:37

For Gossage Juenger

The baseline came closest to Gossage's through 1972

12:38

which would cover his short minor league career and his White Sox debut

12:40

Both right-handed, a year apart in age, ZiPS thinks both were around 55th percentile of their times for velocity (obviously pre-2002 is more of a guess but a pretty decent one), and similar translations for all the three true outcomes, both had both started and relieved

Individual names in comps are more fun than anything

12:41

it's the large group that matters, really

but fun in a good value in and of itself

Adam

12:41

Dan, any hope for us beleaguered Dodger fans after this interminable stretch of multiple months without something great happening?

Dan Szymborski

12:41

There is of course hope

the Dodgers for one, just one an absolute crapload of games!

12:42

It's a very creative organization, but not one that tends to let events bully them into doing something

Danny

12:42

Any idea why sasaki is only a 50 FV, top 60ish prospect, on the international board update? it seemed like in your article in September that he should be more in the top 10 to 15 range

Dan Szymborski

12:42

It's not a ZiPS-derived rating!

12:43

ZiPS is a useful tool, but I'm not going to demand an architect not also use a screwdriver

I guess carpenter was a better choice in this muddled analogy

I'm so confused...

12:43

There have been numerous rumors linking teams to Varsho, but how valuable is a LHH that was a slightly above average bat, that's an elite RF/CF glove with below average C defense, has above average running speed, and four years of team control through his athletic prime?

Dan Szymborski

12:43

I'm honestly not sure Arizona' s *really* shopping him around

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