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Dave Cameron
12:03
Happy Wednesday, everyone.
I have to get my turkey in the brine so we'll start in a few minutes after I do that.
12:10
Alright, let's get this thing started.
Zonk
12:11
Mashed Potatoes or Sweet Potatoes?
Dave Cameron
12:11
I prefer sweet, but we serve both.
Zonk
12:11
Which of these ingredients belong, or don't belong, in stuffing:  Sausage, Apple, Nuts of any kind
Dave Cameron
12:11
I'll happily eat my stuff with any/all of those. I have to make a vegetarian stuffing this year, though.
desertfox9139
12:12
Braves penalties come off as a bit harsh?
Dave Cameron
12:12
I don't think it's a coincidence that MLB dropped the hammer this hard right as Ohtani is getting posted.
They saw a chance to send a message to other teams to not try anything with him, and they took it.
Q-Ball
12:12
We have over 20 people for Thanksgiving, so instead of making 2 turkeys, we started mixing in a Ham.  Some think this is sacriledge.  Are you Pro-Ham for Thanksgiving, or Turkey-Only?
Dave Cameron
12:13
I'm a fan of variety. Go nuts with your ham.
Ray Liotta as Shoeless Joe
12:13
So the Hall of Fame is a cigar club, not a museum, right?
Dave Cameron
12:13
Clearly that's what Joe Morgan wants it to be.
12:14
I don't have to make this decision for a few more years, but I will note that, if I was a first-time voter this year, I would be very tempted to just surrender my ballot and tell the HOF I'm not interested in their process.
Bob L
12:15
After CHC-CLE World Series, seemed every contender was looking for a versatile shutdown reliever. Boston even tried to remold David Price into Andrew Miller, with some success.

Now that the Astros are champs without a dominant reliever, does the demand swing back to ace starting pitching?
Dave Cameron
12:15
I don't think anyone won the World Series because their relievers were bad.
So, no. We're still marching towards a reliever-heavy postseason.
Q-Ball
12:15
What are the consequences to a prospect for knowingly working with a club to circumvent the bonus rules?  Because it seems like it's only a win for player; don't get caught, you get more money.  Get caught?  Even better, a free shot at FA.  Shouldn't there be some accountability on part of players?
Dave Cameron
12:16
These kids are not making these calls. They are 14 or 15 when these deals are negotiated, and the buscones who are cutting these deals have effectively taken over their lives.
John
12:17
Panik (service time), Shaw and Beede (both not in top 100) for Gordon and Stanton seems like an awful deal right? Couldn't the Yankees top that with Adams, Mitchell and Estrada?
Dave Cameron
12:17
It depends entirely on how much money Miami is picking up.
Getting Panik for Stanton and dumping the whole contract would be a win for the Marlins, no matter how lousy the prospects are.
STLFan
12:18
If the Cards were to get a Marlins outfielder, would Piscotty just go to the bench? Signed an extension just a year ago.
Dave Cameron
12:18
Would guess he's in the deal if they acquire an OF.
Q-Ball
12:18
Is the Brave's offense not that they broke the rules, but that they were just amazingly brazen about it?
Dave Cameron
12:19
To some degree, yes.
Not every team does this, but enough do that if they would have not flaunted it, they might have been left alone, or received a lesser penalty.
georgehermanski
12:19
Dave, hope you can answer this. No one else seems to be able. Is there anything preventing a team from offering Ohtani  an opt-out after, for example, 2 years? If he is as good as advertised, this would allow him to get the big bucks as soon as if waited until age 25 and was a true free agent. Also
Dave Cameron
12:20
Yes, that would be a circumvention of the rules, and MLB would not allow it.
No team will be able to alter his first contract in any way. It will have to be a vanilla uniform player contract just like every other amateur signs.
Zonk
12:20
What is your take on Wade Davis and his projected contract?  Obviously he's not a "bargain" or "land mine", but he should be expensive.  How risky is Wade Davis?
Dave Cameron
12:21
I probably wouldn't pay the price to sign him, but he is legitimately very good, and he probably won't cripple his next team.
Urooj
12:21
Why was the Braves punishment so severe compared to other recent scandals like the Cardinals hacking of the Astros? Is it Manfred trying to set a new tone post-Selig?
Dave Cameron
12:21
Chris Correa is in jail.
I get that the Cardinals themselves weren't punished as heavily, but Correa wasn't the GM and they didn't have proof it was an organizational decision to exploit the rules. And the guy who perpetrated the crime got arrested.
Kiermaier's Piercing Green Eyes
12:22
A lot of punishments were meted out yesterday. Coppy got banned for life, while the franchise took a major hit on the international side. I wouldn't think that the owners are all that involved in how the international signings are done, so is Coppy's ban the strongest deterrent for other GMs to do the shady deals that most or all of them apparently do?
Dave Cameron
12:22
The ban is just PR; he was never getting hired by another team again anyway.
Guest
12:23
Are you surprised by the lack of activity so far on the FA market?  I understand everyone is waiting to see what happens with Ohtani / Stanton, but it seems odd to me that there has been so little movement up to this point...
Dave Cameron
12:23
Yeah, this is weird. I think by this time last year, something like 10 players had signed, and we'd had at least 2-3 major trades.
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