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12:59
They'll have to be spot on with all their other transactions then because when i survey the landscape of great players there is a huge # who are international.
Dave Cameron
1:01
Top 10 position players in WAR this year.

Judge (draft)
Altuve (signed for $15K, ATL can still sign these types)
Rendon (draft)
Stanton (draft)
Trout (draft)
Bryant (draft)
Votto (draft)
Ramirez (signed for $50K, ditto Altuve)
Blackmon (draft)
Pham (draft)
Ca$hman
1:01
Isn’t an opt out the best case scenario though?  You get him for a few years and skip the decline?
Dave Cameron
1:01
No. No. No. No. No.
Opt-outs are bad for the team.
Always.
1:02
Players only opt-out if their market value exceeds their remaining salary.
In which case, if the player hadn't opted out, you could trade them for value.
Well now I just read your username and have to delete your comment...
Ray Kinsella
1:03
What would Stanton's trade value be without the opt out? Obviously higher than what it is now.
Dave Cameron
1:04
Yeah, the opt-out is hugely problematic.
If he's good, you're getting 3/$70M.
Which is obviously nice.
But it's not a long-term franchise superstar.
And if he's bad, you're stuck with 7/$225M after that.
Andy
1:05
If a team traded for Stanton, enjoyed his production, then dealt him at the deadline before he opted out, could they recoup enough value to make the initial deal worth it?
Dave Cameron
1:05
Depends on the cost to acquire, but you wouldn't get much for him at the deadline before he opts-out.
P
1:05
Jays being a “dark horse” for JD Martinez has to be the darkest of dark horses right? There’s no way that happens right?
Dave Cameron
1:05
I could see it. Basically just giving Martinez the money earmarked for a Donaldson extension.
1:06
And admit OG J.D. is walking.
1:07
Okay, that's going to do it for me today.
Thanks for chatting, everyone. Enjoy your Thanksgiving tomorrow.
FG is taking the holiday off, assuming Jerry Dipoto doesn't do some weird pre-Thanksgiving trade like last year.
1:08
But we'll be back on Monday with more off-season content.
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