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Dave Cameron
12:41
They signed an older international prospect, not subject to bonus pools, to an inflated bonus with the understanding his buscone would give the difference to five other players they signed in order to stay under their pool allocation.
They also apparently offered a draft pick a car in exchange for taking a lower bonus, and have already setup a package deal with a 14 year old who isn't eligible to sign for two more years.
Ben
12:42
What would you do to fix the international FA system?
Dave Cameron
12:42
Let the market tell you what the players are worth.
NL Central
12:43
Surely you don't believe Correa operated in a vacuum?
Dave Cameron
12:43
Not about what I believe; about what can be proven.
@Dave Cameron
12:44
But since teams can sign against next years bonus pools they could spend some high 6 or 7 figures
Dave Cameron
12:44
They already have deals in place for kids who didn't come to the states, look overweight, and hit terribly in rookie ball.
Peeves the Poltergeist
12:45
What is currently the worst contract in baseball? Pujols?
Dave Cameron
12:45
Yeah
Urooj sucks
12:46
I care about your turkey please only discuss this for the rest of the chat
Jiri
12:46
What's the ranking of Thanksgiving desserts?  Pumpkin pie has to be at the top, right?
Dave Cameron
12:47
Pecan pie #1
Though my mom makes orange rolls (yeast rolls with orange zest baked into the dough, then orange icing on top) and if we didn't eat them all before the meal, they'd be considered a dessert and easily win.
pepper
12:48
If a team were guilty of an under the table arrangement with Ohtani and MLB found this out, obviously the team gets crucified.  BUT would this make Ohtani a genuine free agent?
Dave Cameron
12:48
Based on what MLB just did with the Braves kids, no. They'd just release him back into the bonus pool free agency.
NL Central
12:49
It's been said here by site contributors that 80-100% ofMLB teams were doing what the Braves got busted for. Do you think a team jilted by a prospect signing with the Braves may have dropped a dime?
Dave Cameron
12:49
It's possible.
It probably didn't help that so many people disliked Coppy.
Charlie
12:50
There are rumors that Braves definitely went beyond "what everyone else is doing." Wouldn't it help MLB's case to release more specifics if that's true?
Dave Cameron
12:50
MLB's statement on the punishment explicitly stated what Atlanta did.
John S
12:51
seems like the Coppy-era Braves kind of did a shit job of identifying the correct prospects to target in the IFA market.
Dave Cameron
12:51
That's the underrated story here.
Go read Eric's report on these guys.
They aren't flattering.
John
12:53
Just FYI...by the end of Thanksgiving weekend last year, Morales, Colon, Dickey, Morton, Reddick, Cecil, and Cashner had signed.  McCann, Valencia, Neshek, Maybin, Segura/Haniger, and Walker/Marte had been traded.  So yeah, this offseason is extremely slow.
Motherfucker Jones
12:53
When is it appropriate to listen to Christmas songs?
Dave Cameron
12:53
Christmas morning.
NL Central
12:54
Nothing like practically death penalty-ing your franchise for the sake of sucky prospects
Dave Cameron
12:54
People are really overreacting to the impact this will have on ATL.
Lots of teams get nothing from the international markets and still build winning teams.
It's not ideal to lose years of access to a prospect market, but this isn't the only way to acquire players.
Sam
12:56
If you were to speculate, if a team like the Yankees did sign Ohtani, would they be emboldened to then go out and trade for Stanton or sign JD Martinez because they added a pitcher for the minimum?
Dave Cameron
12:57
Nah, they'd just accept being under the tax and go all out for Harper next year.
Mike
12:57
Does not seem like you think that "the Braves Punishment is in and it's harsh"
Dave Cameron
12:57
It can be a harsh punishment without crippling the franchise.
Ca$hman
12:58
Would you rather have Stanton at $295 or Harper at $500?  I think Stanton
Dave Cameron
12:58
Depends on opt-outs.
You only get Stanton at $295M if he's broken.
If Harper at $500M doesn't have an opt-out, I'd take that.
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