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Ben Clemens

4:32

Dusty is really not living up to his arm-eating rep here, that's for sure

Randy

4:32

Would have let Lance go 1 more inning--or at least start it.

Kevin Goldstein

4:32

yeah, that's where I am.

Ben Clemens

4:33

I totally get tryin to avoid third time through but if we're using the steak scale, this is a medium rare pull

Kevin Goldstein

4:33

But I order my steaks medium-rare . . . .

Ben Clemens

4:33

and verging on rare

haha yeah, but the real life steak scale should END at medium

Kevin Goldstein

4:34

Yes, agreed that anyone who goes further than medium is a monster.

BoofBonser26

4:35

I feel like what bums me out about third time stuff is that the lesson was that the default should be to pull guys, not leave them in, and instead managers seem to have learned the lesson as "always pull starters, even when dealing". It makes me sad

Ben Clemens

4:35

Totally agree with this

Kevin Goldstein

4:35

I find few things in baseball more entertaining than the Tim Anderson battle AB.

Ben Clemens

4:35

Good pitchers are still good the third time through, just not AS good

it seems like the wisdom has been internalized as 'let no one face the order a third time'

Kevin Goldstein

4:35

We should run a query and find the most 9+ pitch ABs.

Ben Clemens

4:36

he would be up there

Kevin Goldstein

4:36

Nice play.

Ben Clemens

4:36

particularly b/c he doesn't often walk on them

Kevin Goldstein

4:37

We should run a query to find the most 9+ pitch ABs that do not end in a walk.

Ben Clemens

4:37

I honestly don't know how to do that, or I would

Kevin

4:37

Yuli stretch!

Kevin Goldstein

4:37

Yuli is an exceptionally underrated defensive 1B. Maybe the best scooper in the business.

Ben Clemens

4:37

Eric Hosmer will fight you

No one loves his scoops more than Hosmer

josh

4:38

I trust Lance a third time through more than any non-Pressly relievers

Kevin Goldstein

4:38

Yeah, that's where I am/was.

Ben Clemens

4:38

I trust 3 guys roughly equally to McCullers 3rd time through

4:39

and yeah, Pressly more

Ryan

4:39

Can we run a query for longest PA that didn't end with a full count?

Kevin Goldstein

4:39

Another fun one.....

Ben Clemens

4:39

Fun fact: Yimi Garcia is not one of those three

Kevin Goldstein

4:40

Yeah, I liked some of the Astros bullpen moves in July, but Yimi was not among them. The FB doesn't play to the velo. I think he's kind of fool's gold.

Ben Clemens

4:40

strong agree

I thought they were buying high on Graveman, but I still think he's good

Garcia, eh

Kevin

4:41

Stanek, Javier, Urquidy?

Ben Clemens

4:41

I had Graveman but not Urquidy (b/c I dunno how they're using him)

Kevin Goldstein

4:41

Can't trust Javier right now with the command issues out of the pen.

That was an ugly inning for White Sox bats...

Ben Clemens

4:42

Anyway, just like we all thought, Garcia cruises after the long at-bat

Doug

4:42

Ultimately, isn't it foolish to trust anyone except for yourself?

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