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AvatarJay Jaffe
6:11
Good lord, I have to think he needs to do some work this winter to get back on track. I mean, he's a HOFer in waiting already but his decline has been Pujols-like and he's got a whole lot of money left on his deal.
6:12
I mean, he needs 23 homers. I can't imagine he stays this bad without some kind of attempt to try something different.
Ian
6:12
Still fun to think about Markakis even though he probably won't get the opportunity.  The discussions of HOF on merit are mostly a matter of what our thresholds are.  The guys of historical significance are good to think about because there's somewhere for the conversation to go.  Minnie Minoso and Buck O'Neil and so forth aren't over any thresholds, but it's good to think about them.
AvatarJay Jaffe
6:13
Miñoso and O'Neil are very different cases than Markakis. I think Minne is the #1 player outside the Hall besides those on the current ballot. Lost a significant chunk of his career to the color line.
James
6:13
Pujols in 2015 was an AS and had .8 fwar in '16
Dystopian Future
6:14
The one that really gets me for AS-to-replacement level is Scooter Gennett. Pretty sure he was an AS in 2018, and he was just bad this year. Obviously had to do with a groin injury, but still. Just feels like the magic genie had enough.
AvatarJay Jaffe
6:15
injuries make up so many of these cases
Ray Liotta as Shoeless Joe
6:16
Not sure if this has been asked, but thoughts on Astros announcing Verlander on short rest for game 4?
Tony Wolfe
6:16
I feel awful for Scooter. He was waiting around on an extension offer that never came from the Reds before last season, and probably looking at $45 million-ish in free agency with even an average 2019. Now he's gonna be hard-pressed even getting a major league deal.
AvatarJay Jaffe
6:16
yes, that part sucks
6:17
Getting back to Verlander, I'm fine with it. They have Cole for Game 5, with Greinke probably in reserve given his low pitch count today, though the combination of his performance and yesterday's low-wattage presser makes me wonder if there's something Zack's not telling us.
6:18
Kolten Wong grounds out on Tomlin's first pitch and now we're getting Shane Greene to face Goldschmidt and Ozuna.
Cam
6:19
Miggy and Felix are parallels in my mind. Both extremely talented with great peak years - but fell off the edge of a cliff in a hurry because of a complete lack of care for conditioning, and zero motivation to adapt their approach as they age. They SHOULD be giving more than what they do today, but arguably, it's their own stubborn-ness that means they don't.
AvatarJay Jaffe
6:20
there may be some parallels but Cabrera is easily qualified for the HOF even if he never plays again, Felix is well short due to his decline.
6:21
Cabrera also has 2 trips to the World Series and 2 MVP awards
Dick Mountain
6:23
Matt Kemp. AS starter 18. Released May 19.
AvatarJay Jaffe
6:23
Another one. Also A-Rod 2016-7 (2.7 WAR to -1.1)
and there's a one-out double for Goldschmidt, so things are gettin' tense.
Ben Clemens
6:24
Hey guys, I'm going to be covering the late game, but I got done with my dog walking duties earlier than expected so dropping in now. I'll be in and out until I get everything set up, though.
Seems like I arrived at an interesting time.
AvatarJay Jaffe
6:25
Hey Ben, welcome aboard!
Josh Herzenberg
6:25
I’ll be tag teaming along with Ben — should be set up in full shortly. Looking forward to chatting with all of you.
AvatarJay Jaffe
6:25
and likewise, Josh!
Ben Clemens
6:25
Ozuna has 80 umpire side-eye, btw
6:26
The Joey Gallo of looking back disapprovingly
AvatarJay Jaffe
6:28
whoa, Ozuna takes a comeback sinker on the black for strike 3
Tony Wolfe
6:28
This umpire gives a couple inches pretty much everywhere, doesn't he?
AvatarJay Jaffe
6:28
and then Molina picks him up with a single over Freeman's head, tie ballgame
5 Run Homer
6:28
I, uh, don't know about that strike
Ben Clemens
6:28
Honestly it seems consistent though I haven't watched the whole game.
Tony Wolfe
6:29
Yeah, it's been that way throughout.
Ben Clemens
6:29
That said, if you're Ozuna you can't love that you saw 4 pitches, 3 were out of the zone, and you swung at the one in it.
That's pretty good baseballing and a four-pitch strikeout is a rough reward.
Greg
6:29
OFF Freeman's glove too ...
Ben Clemens
6:29
My goodness, Freeman is tall. There are maybe no first basemen who could have caught that?
(given his positioning)
AvatarJay Jaffe
6:32
Here's the Ozuna at-bat via Brooks Baseball. That wasn't a bad strike 3
Ben Clemens
6:32
This zone, hoo boy
Can't be taking pitches today I suppose.
Morbo
6:32
Ben, future first baseman Aaron Judge begs to differ
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