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Trade-Deadline Chat with Kiley McDaniel and Travis Sawchik
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Travis Sawchik
3:37
But, of course, Archer has the valuable control years
too
AvatarKiley McDaniel
3:39
the sort of move they've avoided making under this current regime
they've also been very hesitant to even discuss top prospects
Travis Sawchik
3:39
Fascinating deal
Archer, Meadows and a 3rd piece according to multiple reports
3:40
Glasnow, meadows - edit
O....K
3:40
Pirates 'gon Searage-ize Archer?
AvatarKiley McDaniel
3:40
well, Travis...are they?
You could argue Archer is along the lines of Gerrit Cole, that throwing 50% SL could be his shortest path to continued success, which isn't really what Searage prescribes
Travis Sawchik
3:41
That's a great question!
AvatarKiley McDaniel
3:42
DIEKMAN SZN
Travis Sawchik
3:42
The Pirates' Way of 2013-15 ... two-seamers, groundballs, etc ... is a zag from today's zig
Archer doesn't have a two-seamer
His four-seamer is getting hit
I'd guess you'd want to Rich Hill-ize Archer
Or give him some pine tar
3:43
Pirates perhaps can learn from what Astros did with Gerrit Cole in pitch mix, location, etc
AvatarKiley McDaniel
3:43
LET'S RICH HILL-IZE CHRIS ARCHER
BY JEFF SULLIVAN
Travis Sawchik
3:43
Yes!
3:44
Who would you have asked for for Archer from Pit, Kiley?
3:45
Glasnow is a human error bar in regard to range of ultimate outcomes
AvatarKiley McDaniel
3:45
Meadows vs. Ke'Bryan Hayes is pretty close right now
Post Malone
3:46
How much does a number 4 starter like Archer really move the needle?
AvatarKiley McDaniel
3:47
(Hayes is 34th in the minors, is arrows up with plus D and hit tool at 3B, Meadows was 47th entering the year and is probably a LF with pressure on the bat and some injuries.)
Travis Sawchik
3:47
That's hyperbole but he's certainly having a down year ... Moving to the NL Central from the AL East will help his number and fantasy owners
Easily
3:47
Does the fact that Orioles ownership gets a percentage of the Nats television revenue impact, one way or the other, their willingness to trade? The Orioles often seem to be trading past the Nats to the Nats opponents. Or am I just voldemorting Angelos?
AvatarKiley McDaniel
3:47
I have been told this not being totally resolved impacts a potential sale
RyanW
3:48
If this Archer deal happened in 2015 I'd be far more excited, but I'll roll with it
Bo
3:49
Glasnow, Meadows plus for Archer. What would a Braves offer have looked like? Toussaint, Pache, and one more piece?
Travis Sawchik
3:49
If this trade was made in 2015 between TB-PIT, it still probably would have been for Glasnow and Meadows.
AvatarKiley McDaniel
3:49
Both ATL pieces are better than the PIT pieces
Travis Sawchik
3:49
Everyone involved has seen their value diminish
Perennial Ballboy Tryout
3:50
Chris Archer's deal is like the Sonny Gray deal last year: Starter who struggles with contact, has the potential to be a #1, but hasn't reached it yet. New team gave up post-hype prospects w/ big ceiling, a lot to prove.
Travis Sawchik
3:50
A new deadline model
Joe
3:51
is this the most popular chat, ever?
Justin
3:52
Long story short.  Delmon Young traded for Matt Garza traded for Chris Archer and now traded for Glasnow/Meadows.  Pretty good #1 overall pick if you ask me
Travis Sawchik
3:52
Love trade lineages
This has been a popular chat
3:53
Probably more to do with the calendar than the actual authors involved
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