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Ben Clemens

10:13

and Alvarez wasn't around

GBS42

10:13

Ben, I just wanted to thank you and everyone involved in the creation of this series. Excellent work!!!

Ben Clemens

10:13

Thanks very much

Guest?

10:14

Who would you rather extend, Rutschman or Gunnar? Even though Adley is projected to provide more value before free agency,ight he provide less afterwards?

Ben Clemens

10:15

I think I'd rather extend Adley, I think they're pretty close on the merits (depending on the deals, of course) so my tiebreaker is that I'd rather give the player who came up first and kinda feels like the leader of his cohort a deal

RTJ

10:15

How many Honorable Mention players would you have to stack together to put together a compelling trade for Acuna? Is "Boatload" the correct number?

Ben Clemens

10:15

Hmmmmmm, I don't think you could do it

I think there's just no answer

10:16

Why would the Braves take 20 players they can't roster?

They already have like six players better than anyone in that group

Justice

10:16

First off, how dare you personally insult me by proxy of how you ranked my favorite team's player's trade value

Ben Clemens

10:16

I had to tweak the model a little but I just dislike them that much

Justice

10:16

Second off, which player just drafted shows up first on your trade value chart next year?

Ben Clemens

10:17

Oh man, I guess the most likely outcome is Skenes just because he's the most advanced, but I'm gonna bet none

Will

10:17

Would you consider the framework of a Pfaadt, Perdomo, and prospects not named Lawler or Jones for Ohtani a fair deal?

Ben Clemens

10:17

If you're an Effectively Wild listener, today should be a treat given this question

10:18

That aside, 'fairness' isn't really the word I'd use. I don't think Perdomo would interest the Angels since I would not be interested in moving Neto off of shortstop, so I think it's probably not to their taste

emh1969

10:18

Was the lack of love for Steven Kwan because teams don't value his type (speed, OBP, and defense) even if WAR shows he's an above average player?

Ben Clemens

10:19

I probably should have thrown him on the honorable mentions list

10:20

At some point though, the whole exercise becomes kinda silly, like there are a lot of pretty good players, no one I talked to was like 'how dare you leave Kwan off the top 50' for whatever that's worth

Bert

10:21

Joe Musgrove and Luis Castillo seem broadly similar in terms of recent performance and contracts, yet Castillo ranks and Musgrove doesn’t. They’re also within 3 career WAR. I think it’s obvious that Castillo has been better and has more margin for error, ZIPs likes him more too, but was there any thought of ranking Musgrove?

Ben Clemens

10:22

Honestly, another guy who should've been an honorable mention probably, I agree that Castillo is better but it's not a terrible comp, Musgrove is like Castillo-

shortstop

10:22

How do you reconcile the fact that teams are often biased towards overvaluing their players? In other words, how do you explain cases in which BOTH teams would turn down a hypothetical 1:1 trade idea?

Ben Clemens

10:22

It seems fine to me

This is barely a 'trade value' list despite the name because these guys rarely get traded

I think of the top 10 or 20 as a 'who would I want on my team if I were a GM' list

that's more helpful in my head

Moose

10:23

Any thought on Lamonte Wade Jr or Thairo Estrada being HMs?

Ben Clemens

10:24

Thairo, yeah, I suppose I could see that, him currently being injured and the time it takes to recover from hand issues definitely cooled me on him.

10:25

Wade, nah, I like him but he's 29 and 2022 wasn't great. His plate discipline is on another level this year no doubt, but I think you have to bet on that continuing to avoid the whole first base dead zone thing, and he doesn't have the most years of control remaining either

Wade is a great guy to have on your team though

I'm a semi Giants fan I'd say, or like I root for them when I go to their games, and I'm always very happy when he's batting

Sneed

10:25

Who is ranked highest on the top 50 that you reasonably think will be moving before the trade deadline?

Ben Clemens

10:25

Ohtani

Todd

10:25

Can you recall a one year strikeout rate improvement like Acuna's? He just cut it in half seemingly without affecting power output or walk rate.

Ben Clemens