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Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat - 2/10/2020

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Ben Clemens

3:09

I'm spitballing here

Tabletop Talk

3:09

Seven Wonders is, as the kids say, the bomb diggity.

Ben Clemens

3:09

Agreed. Amazingly solid game.

I am the Walrus

3:09

Would the Bosox have gotten more if the just traded Betts and not Price +$45M?

Ben Clemens

3:09

I think no?

Price at 16 million a year seems reasonable

3:10

like Cole Hamels signed for more than that (AAV), I'd rather have Price.

Three years isn't an exorbitant amount of time

If your team could add 3/48 of price for free, I think almost any team would do that

devin has cheeto lips

3:10

With Nate Lowe being....wait for it...wait for it....ahem...Lowe man on the totem pole in TB, how soon before he gets a regular gig?

Buscon Bob

3:10

Is Nate Lowe destined to be traded?

Ben Clemens

3:11

So hard to predict Rays roster moves. He feels incredibly blocked now, but they might be okay with that? I can't really see Martinez there after this season, Choi is kind of a similar deal.

If they can make the 40 man work, I'd be inclined to keep him.

3:12

Gotta keep that churn going.

Buscon Bob

3:12

With P&C reporting this week and ST next week, is it misplaced worry that Cole looks a tad out of shape in photos and Vladdy Jr's already looking like mid-career Daddy Vladdy?

Ben Clemens

3:12

Haha yes, too early to worry. Best shape of his life is a trope for a reason; it's not strongly predictive (or even really predictive at all) and pictures can be misleading.

FlyingPuig

3:12

Hi Ben, Sox fan here. I just read the post evaluating the monetary impacts of the Betts deal on the Red Sox, and the article strongly suggests they probably should have just kept him if the only goal was budgetary. Do you agree? I think most people feel the Red Sox were going to struggle to contend even with Betts.

Ben Clemens

3:12

I thikn they would be wild card favorites with Betts

3:13

I just don't get why people are willing to look at their down 2019 and not consider their boom 2018.

The team was largely similar, with some aging involved

But E Rod and Devers are much better now

Or at least, project better

Bogaerts too

Which should offset some Sale decline, some JDM decline, lack of Kimbrel, etc.

Adam

3:13

Which player did you think was a superstar when you were a kid, only to realize later that you'd massively overrated them? Mine was Joe Carter.

Ben Clemens

3:14

Weirdly Royce Clayton?

I was a huuuuuuuge Ozzie Smith fan as a kid.

My dad bought me a videotape called 'Ozzie that's a winner' that was just a compliation of highlights

3:15

And so when Clayton replaced him I assumed it was because he was a stud.

Logan

3:15

With the benefit of a year or two to review some of their deals, how would you evaluate the Marlins' trade of Ozuna, Yelich, Stanton, Realmuto, and others? Obviously prospects like Lewis Brinson have yet to work out, but there's significant upside still for other pieces of their return, such as Sixto Sanchez. Is there enough young talent there that the Marlins might claw their way up to "decent" in a couple years?

Ben Clemens

3:15

So I would say: the best trade for them was probably the Stanton trade, weirdly?

In the reality we live in, imagine the Marlins with Stanton.

They wouldn't spend money on anything ever

3:16

In terms of baseballr eturns, the Ozuna trade worked out great

Then the Realmuto trade netted them Sixto

I'm skeptical of Sixto just b/c the strikeouts have never showed up

3:17

And at some point you'd like to see that, because there are risks from the slight frame

So some upside would be nice.