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Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat - 7/26/21

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pakkap

2:25

ruiz should get the dodgers scherzer plus - crazy or non?

Ben Clemens

2:25

Not crazy, I'd say

Alby

2:25

The trade value series always features mostly guys who won't be traded. Has FG ever considered doing a similar exercise for only the names rumored to be on the block?

Ben Clemens

2:25

Yes, in fact Kevin fought for us to do that list instead this year

2:26

There's a lot of institutional inertia keeping the current list going. People like reading it and then lording their globe-spanning baseball intelligence over us dummy writers in the comments

Joking, but only partially

It's just a thing people expect, and it's a fun exercise. Not to say we wouldn't do both in the future, but the trade value series as currently constituted is definitely an institution

Derek

2:26

If the Hosmer rumors are at all true, isn't sending a/some prospect/s of value along with him literally the only way that gets done?

Ben Clemens

2:27

Yeah, that would prove me wrong, but I just don't thikn the Padres would attach much of value, so I don' see it getting done

2:29

Like, from a surplus value standpoint, he's earning roughly 80 million dollars over the balance of his contract... so that's 80 million dollars underwater

The projections are not great!

2:30

Per a slightly old but still useful Craig Edwards article (https://blogs.fangraphs.com/an-update-to-prospect-valuation/), that's like MacKenzie Gore +

That isn't happening

Appa Yip Yip

2:30

The Padres should really have listened to their most recent hire on that one.

Ben Clemens

2:31

There are a ton of old FG Audios where Carson was haranguing Dave about how good Adam Frazier would be

Asking him the odds of Frazier winning a batting title, etc

I like to think that there's a string of smug text messages heading southwest nonstop today

2:31

Re: Cubs financial question. I actually think the Rays would be willing to attach a prospect or two to Kiermaier if a team was willing to eat some of his salary because of the position player glut they currently have with Cruz on the roster now. Maybe in return for a reliever? How does Kiermaier + Kevin Padlo + an intriguing A ball pitcher for Ryan Tepera sound?

Ben Clemens

2:32

Yeah, the Rays are the rare team that might do this, but I think they'd only do it if they're bringing in a contract the other way and need to equalize things. That's a fair point

If they somehow land Scherzer, they probably need to get rid of someone to make things work

2:33

They obviously *could* anyway, and Kiermaier's contract isn't terrible

In fact, I think it's roughly neutral

2:34

12 million next year, for a premium center fielder? I'm not sure I'd sign him to that, but it's not off by that much

BenB

2:34

Have you ever met a Ben who wasn't a nice guy ? I sure haven't ...

Ben Clemens

2:34

Extreme brag (not even a humble brag), but I met Ben Bernanke once and he was quite nice

So I'm going to say that all Ben's are nice

Sweet beard, too

Nate

2:34

Ben, did Yoan Moncada get consideration for trade value piece?

Ben Clemens

2:34

He did

2:35

He was in the soup of people from 40-60

And spent time in the 50, out of the 50, dancing around

I think he probably should have been higher up on our list

2:36

Team types agreed with him being in that soup range, and he was a casualty of us bumping some people up who teams thought were very underrated

Derek

2:36

Is Ben Affleck a nice guy?

Ben Clemens

2:36

Oof

2:37

Ruined

The Pain and the Smell

2:37

If the Royals trade for Eric Hosmer (which terrifyingly, would be a very GMDM move) us Royals fans are going to have to picket outside of Sherman's house. We are so over Dayton Moore at this point. This is the time of year where he fails to get value out of our trade assets, we rattle off a bunch of meaningless wins to knock our draft pick down a handful of spots, and then get to listen to Dayton blow smoke about how much we've improved and how we're going to be competitive next year. Ugh.....

Ben Clemens

2:37

Good news, my friend

If the Royals acquire Hosmer, he probably won't knock down the draft pick

Ben Cherington

2:38

Never met Netanyahu, I guess?

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