JotCast | Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat - 9/22/25

Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat - 9/22/25

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Ben Clemens

2:36

thank you. and yeah, look, questioning the odds is good

they don't get better by us not questioning them

I have an article coming out tomorrow about a way to do pythagorean expectation that accounts for blowouts and position players pitching better

I'm always trying to find something we can improve

Wrights_back

2:36

The Mets. Not a question but a lament worthy of Psalms

Ben Clemens

2:37

And yea, ask thyself
Whether 'tis better to have Soto and not appreciate it
Or to dare greatly, then fail

Derek bell's Jeep

2:37

Should Jays fans be pushing the panic button?

Ben Clemens

2:38

no, stop it, they've won 90 games and they're even 11-8 in September

OsAreFun

2:38

As an O's fan, should I be worried because of this season?

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Ben Clemens

2:38

ah, now THIS

yes

2:39

what a bummer season for Baltimore. I mean, they looked pretty good after the first two months, my long-term expectation of their talent level hasn't changed markedly

2:40

But on the other hand, this was a big year for them. They didn't make the playoffs. Their two best players had down years. They have two more years of Adley and three of Gunnar, and they haven't cashed in nearly enough on that

look at the 2016 era Cubs, probably the philosophical equivalent of the O's, hitter-heavy in their tank and rebuild phase and acquiring pitchers as they competed

they'd accomplished a lot more by this point. and when their stars neared free agency and started costing more, they fell off

appa yip yip

2:41

the thing about baseball is if you win 6 in a row then lose 4 in a row you went 6 and 4 over a 10 game span which will get you 97 wins if you do it all season. which is what the jays did before their win last night.

Ben Clemens

2:41

well said

it's just so frustrating as a fan when you're in the moment

TigersFan1

2:41

I think the Tigers's collapse is due to their pitching depth. They haven't hit well lately, but if they had decent pitchers we would have probably already clinched the playoffs. I am infuriated as a Tigers fan.

Ben Clemens

2:42

yeah, if there's anything the Tigers will regret about the deadline, it's that they didn't react to the Reese Olson injury news by leaning harder into acquiring pitching

I think that Justin Verlander was there for the taking if they really wanted him, that would have been fun. Morton was probably cheaper but knowing that you only have a few locked in options, why not shoot multiple shots?

OsAreFun

2:43

who are your favorite prospects this year? regardless of games, just how they looked in the majors(not named Nick Kurtz because he looks like a beast after this season)

Ben Clemens

2:43

so, Kurtz is probably number one, but yeah, doesn't really count as a prospect anymore

dude's just a very good mlb player

so obviously, then, daylen lile

2:44

so fun!

so fast, Howie Kendrick level desire to swing the bat and put the ball in play

The M’s only win when I’m abroad

2:44

Has there ever been a position player who’s been left in to give up 10 runs? That Royals game was wild.

Ben Clemens

2:44

it made for a great hook for my article about modifying Pythag

Justin

2:44

Not even Steve Cohen and Juan Soto could save the Mets from cosmic forces

Ben Clemens

2:45

i mean, we'll see

Dirt

2:45

That Nats team is pretty fun to watch. Nasim Nunez was good Rule 5 pick

Ben Clemens

2:45

I mean.... maybe!

I'm a big Nas Nunez fan, for the record. He had an awesome card in OOTP as a future star one year and I played him extensively

but like, maybe he can't hit

2:46

really fun utility player, I think he might be in a 5 things this week, but his career 82 wRC+ is probably overestimating him

very fun to watch, though

they have some stars and some youth

Insert Witty Name Here

2:46

What are your thoughts on the player celebrations everytime they get on base? Some of them seem overly forced and after 162 games of the same thing…I’m like…meh.

Ben Clemens

2:46

yep, agreed

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