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Curricular Advising Live Chat 2022

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Adi Altshuler

9:04

The concentration relate to JD curriculum, it is something you may ignore.

Paulina

9:04

Hi, what does it mean if under "Law Reqs and Restrictions," a class says "Appellate Law Concentration"? Does it mean it counts towards it, or is it a class I need to take previously?

Adi Altshuler

9:03

4-5 courses (depending how many credits) is a fine schedule. A course that has 3 credits will require more work than a course that has 2 credits, so the amount of work will be more or less comparable regardless of the combination/number of courses.

Liz

9:03

When looking through the courses, I noticed you could choose about 4 courses and already have 12 credits. How do you advise we make the course selection to make the most out of the program without getting overwhelmed

Nell Novara

9:02

At times, the system simply won't allow you to do so. If it does allow you to do so, you will receive your points back if it rejects your bid. If the system somehow accidentally adds you to the course (which can happen on occasion), you'd need to drop the bid/course before the end of last chance period to ensure you get your points back. This rarely happens, as the system usually helps weed out these problems.

Smiti

9:02

If I bid on a course that is not available to me, the bidding points are lost. Is that correct?

Adi Altshuler

9:02

No, this is a CLR course for the students in the International Human rights program.

Ira

9:02

Hello, Adi and Nell! Could you, please, tell if it is ok to bid for "Human Rights Advocacy: Legal Analysis and Writing" course? It shows up in Fall Schedule, but not on Timeblock. I just wanted to make sure it will be in a system for bidding. Thank you for your time!

Nell Novara

9:00

Yes - you must bid on the ALS courses. If you'd prefer to wait until the spring to take Con Law, you may do so. However, note that ALS Civ Pro is only available in the fall, so you'd need to bid this semester.

For Legal Ethics (whichever version), you must bid as well. You may also take it in either semester.

Lucas

9:00

Hi Adi, I have two questions. For American Legal Studies (Civil Procedure or Constitutional Law) is it necessary to bid?
And for Legal Ethics (or similar) is it also necessary to bid? Can I take both in the spring semester?

Adi Altshuler

8:59

Hi, yes, the Kellogg courses in our schedule (those you bid on) count towards graduation credits and NY bar credits. We will also provide details and opportunity to enroll in Kellogg courses in Kellogg as a Non-K student, this will happen later in the fall semester if spaces are available, and those courses will not count towards either graduation/NY bar.
Business Strategy is open to all JD, and LLM students including Tax students, but you may bid and take the course.

Jiang Qi

8:59

Thanks Adi! Here two questions for Law-Kellogg courses. 1. credits from Kellogg can be counted into 22 credits required for graduation and the 24 credits required for New York bar? 2. Business Strategy(Law-Kellogg) is only open to tax llm? Is that any possible to get a waiver for that course?

Nell Novara

8:58

Sure- so- remember that the "price" of a course is the amount that the last student to get a seat "paid." So if you bid 500 points on a course with 40 seats, maybe you get seat 1. However, if the student to get seat 40 bid 5 points, the "price" of that course for EVERYONE is 5 points, and you will get back 495 points.

Jeronimo

8:58

Hello, can you explain all the situations in which you get your bidding points back? I know a few, but want to make sure I have everything clear

Adi Altshuler

8:57

Yes, but you will need to request a waiver to do them at the same time.

Roselyn

8:57

Good morning Nell and Adi! I'm wondering if BA courses can be chosen in the spring semester alongside courses that require BA as a prerequisite.

Nell Novara

8:56

Civil Procedure is a 1L course, so LLM students can not enroll in this. There is a special course designed for LLMs - American Legal Studies: Civil Procedure, which you can bid on and will meet your graduation requirements

Liz

8:56

Can LLMs do Civil Procedure?

Adi Altshuler

8:54

yes, the course is open to LLM as all of you will be taking CLR in the fall.

Vanessa

8:54

Yes, Advanced Legal Writing (Argument, Advocacy and Drafting) which is offered in the spring. I was just wondering if there is a previous course I have to take in the fall in order to be able to take that one in the spring since it’s titled advanced or if it will be open to me regardless.

Nell Novara

8:54

As we mentioned in the email from International Programs yesterday, any emails forwarded from the Registrar contain general information- some of which may be relevant to JDs only.

LLMs should ONLY bid for Trial Ad ITA- Int'l track and not on the other courses. Please be sure to review emails from our office for LLM-specific requirements/exceptions/rules

Zoya

8:54

Hi Nell, so about ITA courses, do you mean LLMs are only able to bid for "Trial Ad ITA-Int'l Track", rather than bidding for three combined ITA classes said in yesterday's email?

Adi Altshuler

8:47

which course, specifically? Advance Lgeal Writing is, in the spring.

Vanessa

8:47

Good morning Adi and Nell!
Just to confirm, courses titled advanced are open to us as LLMs, correct?

Nell Novara

8:47

Correct. As mentioned before, IF there are seats avaialble in Ethics (ITA) and Evidence (ITA) after bidding, ONLY LLM students enrolled in Trial Advocacy Int'l may add themselves to these classes, but we cannot guarantee there will be seats available. If you plan/need to take Legal Ethics and/or Evidence, you should bid on the other sections to ensure you'll have a spot in these courses.

Cunye

8:47

Sorry, I still have some problem about ITA courses, is that mena LLM student can only bid “Introduction to Trial Advocacy (International Track)”? Other ITA courses such as evidence, legal ethics and Trial Advocacy are only available for JD students?

Adi Altshuler

8:46

No, each is a separate course and you may take one either in fall or spring.

Jiang Qi

8:46

Thanks for your answer Nell. Here is another one: I see M&A both on fall and spring curriculum. But on the fall classes schedule, there is M&A(1)(maybe means first part?). Is that means the M&A course offered during spring session is the second part which I need to take M&A(1) during fall in prior?

Nell Novara

8:45

You may certainly bid on this course. Colloquiums typically do not have final exams, but are instead evaluated by final papers, but if the details are not listed, you may reach out to the professor to review past syllabi.

Federico Vicente

8:45

Hello Nell and Adi - good morning. Thanks for taking this time with us. I am an Exchange Student and will be taking classes during the upcoming Fall semester. I am interested in taking ‘Colloquium: Law and Economics (Litvak)’. As per the course details posted in the Course Catalog, such course does not have any prereq. Am I able to register as to any other course? Do you know how is the examination method in Colloquiums? It is not described in the Course Catalog. Any comment and suggestion are more than welcome. Thank you!

Adi Altshuler

8:44

at the moment, the courses that are on the schedule are the ones to be taught. I will chekc on that and get back to you later, if this specific course wil lbe added.

Rodrigo

8:44

Thank you Adi, I understood in past LLMs, courses like “Real estate financing” were offered. A similar course is what I’m looking for.

Adi Altshuler

8:43

We are still working out the details of the CLR registration. To allow you to pick the section that would best match with your other preffered courses, we are going to make it a biddable course so you will be able ot bid for the section you prefer. Having said that, since there are enough seats in all sections for all of the incoming LLMs, I encourage you not to spend too many bidding points on any of the sections. We will provide more information about teh process soon.

Sunny

8:42

Good morning. About the CLR class, are those sections assigned automatically? What can I do if I prefer one specific section?

Adi Altshuler

8:40

Yes. Seminars are small with fewer students 15-25 and the evaluation method is usually a paper. so, no exam at teh end of the semester.

Zichun Wang

8:40

Hi professors, thanks for answering us the questions. If a course is defined as a seminar, does that mean it might not have to take a final exam? Usually it will just require a final paper?

Nell Novara

8:39

No- the requirement to enroll in all is for the JD students only. LLMs taking the Trial Advocacy course are not required to do so. If you definitely want to take Ethics and Evidence, you may bid on the regular sections of each rather than wait/hope to see if there are seats available in ITA (as we cannot guarantee there will be)

Stefanie

8:39

Good Morning you two! I could not find an answer to the following question: If I would like to take the Trial Advocacy (Intl) Course, is it mandatory for me also to take the Evidence (ITA) and Ethics (ITA) (in the same semester and even though I cannot bid on them)?

Adi Altshuler

8:37

The courses that are on the schedule are most likely the courses that will be offered this fall. There may be some changes in the spring. I can help you identify potential courses, and if U.S. real estate is of interest, the 1L course Property may be of interest to you, so we cna discuss it privately.

Rodrigo

8:37

Hi Adi, Nell.

I can’t find any Real Estate related course, are you going to open a course on the subject?

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