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Felix Comic Art Chat (1/17/22)
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Nick Barrucci
3:30
Ha Ha @Roman Roy - English is my second language ;-)
New art is also great Matt
Roman Roy
3:31
You wrote it right Nick....my brain scrambled it.
Dan T
3:31
@Fabrice - dead on.  Collectibles are a new class of alternative investment.
Tom Franck
3:31
A term I have heard in terms of the spike in collectibles is "divest from cash" because of inflation.
Joe F
3:31
@Fabrice, I'm an appraiser, in multiple collecting categories. You see extreme price resets, but nothing like this SW 8 page that I can recall.
Matt Birdoff
3:31
Not a complaint, just an observation.
Felix Lu
3:31
@Barry...can you give another sneak peek at next auction? Besides TOS #39?
Barry Sandoval
3:32
@Felix We have a cover to a very well-known 80s Marvel #1 issue ... you will have to check back to see which though
Felix Lu
3:32
@Barry...POWER PACK #1?
Philip B.
3:32
new art is great. If reasonably priced.
Graham Chrystman
3:32
Super interested to see with the SW8 result if this creates a paralysis of high end material appearing on auction houses, or if we will see a surge of product over the next 6 months.  I'll be watching on the sidelines.
Felix Lu
3:33
@Graham...Barry says their phone is ringing off the hook since that auction went down...
Mark V
3:33
Jack of Hearts miniseries #1 cover confirmed
Nick Barrucci
3:33
Barry you tease!
Fabrice Stroun
3:33
@Tom Franck. Can you expand ?
Ron Lim
3:33
@Barry DAZZLER?
Nick Barrucci
3:33
Agreed Philip - we just need to buy what we love
Kelsey S
3:33
@Graham I’ll have my popcorn ready as well
Roman Roy
3:33
Strawberry Shortcake #1?!?!?
Dan T
3:33
@Graham C - some of the high end stuff has already been consigned months in advance too.
Gene Park
3:33
@Fabrice Stroun, everything went nuts starting March 2020 or thereabouts, with sports cards the poster child.  Lots of people turning to nostalgia and back to things over experiences during the lockdown and things just fed on themselves, institutional money piled on, YouTubers proliferated, fractionals blew up, everybody and their cousin wanted hard assets with money being printed by the trillions...all of it combined to send collectibles soaring (I'm involved in many different verticals, everything ramped across the board for a while)
Chuck Arnold
3:33
What I find surprising is the A-list prices for the traditionally D List artists. Gil Kane and Romita art deseve top dollar as well as guys like Miller or Byrne, but Rick Buckler or Al Milgrom, I don't see the appeal.
Felix Lu
3:34
@Chuck...it's all about first appearances and "birth pages" now, apparently...doesn't matter who drew them or what the art actually looks like...
Timothy Guerrero
3:34
I was looking at the International Comic Art & Anime auction and it has a lot of items in it.
Rob Rusch
3:34
@Fabrice inflation devalues cash, so you want your cash to be in tangible assets or equities
marcus wai
3:34
SuperPro #1
Philip B.
3:34
I think older collectors who are sitting on big pieces are deciding between cashing in and retiring, or letting they’d families inherit this stuff and sell them off without the tax consequences.
Gene Park
3:35
@Chuck Arnold, yeah, we are at the point where second and third tier artists are fetching prices that first-tier artists were getting just a few years ago.  Very surprised that there's a market for $38K Nova covers and 6-figure Buckler FF covers at this point.  I mean, I love that era of Marvel, but, the prices...sheesh
John Butler
3:35
I don't want to come across as slamming any art or artist... to each his own.. but what gets me about the SpiderGoo page as some have called it at that price...what happens when something truly remarkable pops up? Like the FF48 cover assuming it exists (it does I am told). By all rights stuff like that should go for a multiple if that page is the barometer... but what if they go for less?
Felix Lu
3:35
@John...I expect vast majority of art that you and I believe to be better than SpiderGoo page to go for less than $3.36M...
Will K
3:35
@Barry... are reserve prices being used more often ?  Do you think their usage will increase ?
Barry Sandoval
3:35
@WillK No, we almost never have a reserve as you've seen. Nobody wants to be the first person to bid that amount!
Joe F
3:35
@Gene - I don't like the fact pattern of fractionals. I'm looking at a SW 1 CGC 9.0 (35 cent price variant) with a valuatiion that 3-5 x market. This constant push to move the needle, while spreading out ownership, isn't a trend I particularly see doing anything more than pricing out single person ownership
Kelsey S
3:35
I can’t wait to see the mono prints pop back up for sale from people who have purchased those. There’s absolutely no way those retain any value in my opinion but correct me if I’m wrong haha
Felix Lu
3:36
@Kelsey...so far, they've tanked. But who knows going forward. Regardless, not something we do. Prints are art...I just don't consider them original art...
Gene Park
3:36
@John Butler, it's entirely possible that they go for less. The transitive property rarely works in comic art.  Remember when the ASM #328 cover sold for $657K...and the ASM #121 cover sold for $286K not long after.
marcus wai
3:36
@john Butler - they are only worth what someone is willing to pay, the ASM 328 for example
Roman Roy
3:36
Chuck, I've talked to more newer collectors that are all about "birth issue" or "born book" or just characters and don't care about pencillers...much less penciller inker teams or prime eras for prime pencillers, etc. It's a very "comic book collector" approach that a lot of us had when we first started out before the nuances of art teams and aesthetics took over.
Ron Lim
3:36
@Kelsey I think monoprints are a joke, but I also think NFTs are a joke and that shit skyrocketing.
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Jason Wood
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11:47
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I’m with Gene, we are going to have four — at least — Fed hikes this year and the world is going to deal with declining risk premiums for the first time in more than a decade
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